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Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Unfortunately that experience keeps getting degraded. The hiding of proxy icons is crazy to me.

Read that, it's enlightening! https://tidbits.com/2022/03/26/tipbits-always-show-window-pr...

Wow! They put it under "accessibility"? What?

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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The MacBook Air mentioned (2014) will install Mavericks when booted into recovery mode anyway (unless you use Option-Command-R which will give you the newest compatible version which is Big Sur). I did that a few days ago and I agree, it’s quite snappy! Missing certificates can also be installed manually (e.g. from the curl CA bundle), but even then TLS 1.3 support is lacking in most apps which breaks a lot of stuff…

Regarding SSL: just make sure you are using macOS 10.9.3, earlier versions (all of them, and I mean, all since the 80s) never had a working SSL implementation.

For more, read about the GOTO FAIL bug: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2014-1266

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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Was hoping this legendary gtk themer had a mavericks theme but Yosemite is the earliest it appears. https://github.com/vinceliuice/Yosemite-gtk-theme If you want a macOS theme with insane quality on Linux this guy's work is the pinnacle.

You call that insane quality? I took a five second look at the GitHub page and I already noticed that the spacing between the three traffic light buttons is wrong. It immediately felt off.

Great! Go make a pull request, that's the power of open source.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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> Don't you love how hackable everything is? Removing stock apps from the Applications folder is completely safe—nothing will break—and this is your computer, so you should make it your own. You can always restore apps later using Time Machine. Just don't delete System Preferences, or anything in the Utilities folder. This was pretty funny. “You can do anything, and you should be able to do anything, nothing will bre…

> I feel much safer telling people to “just try stuff” when I know there isn’t a risk of them breaking everything and being left with an unbootable machine

On which non-mobile OS is this true? It's certainly NOT safe on Mac/Windows/Linux to "just try stuff". I can trivially delete all of your data and/or upload all your .ssh files and Documents by "just try it"

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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> Don't you love how hackable everything is? Removing stock apps from the Applications folder is completely safe—nothing will break—and this is your computer, so you should make it your own. You can always restore apps later using Time Machine. Just don't delete System Preferences, or anything in the Utilities folder. This was pretty funny. “You can do anything, and you should be able to do anything, nothing will bre…

> I feel much safer telling people to “just try stuff” when I know there isn’t a risk of them breaking everything and being left with an unbootable machine On which non-mobile OS is this true? It's certainly NOT safe on Mac/Windows/Linux to "just try stuff". I can trivially delete all of your data and/or upload all your .ssh files and Documents by "just try it"

If you are running an immutable system like Bazzite it is significantly harder to get yourself into an unbootable state by accident, since if your system-wide change does actually break the machine, you can just boot into an older one. NixOS is quite a bit different, but likewise it is really hard to make the system unbootable just by making changes, since I can just boot into an old generation. I haven't used rescue media for my own machines in probably 5 or 6 years now.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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You call that insane quality? I took a five second look at the GitHub page and I already noticed that the spacing between the three traffic light buttons is wrong. It immediately felt off.

Great! Go make a pull request, that's the power of open source.

I'm not about to dedicate any minute of my time when my first impression of a project is bad. It's like meeting new people: I'm not going to try to meet up with you again to find more common ground if my first impression of a person is bad.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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I also like the aesthetics of OS X versions prior to 10.10. It is hard to find programs that still support older versions though. To make things easier I'm using the more modern macOS 10.14 but installed a few things to make it look more like 10.9.

The file and instructions in https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mavericks-window-contro... change many of the UI elements to look like those in 10.9.

Menu Bar Tint (https://manytricks.com/menubartint/) can make the menubar look like the one in 10.9.

macOSLucidaGrande (https://github.com/LumingYin/macOSLucidaGrande) can change the system font back to Lucida Grande like 10.9 used. One annoyance with this though is that the '*' character won't show up in password input fields.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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I stayed on Mavericks until late 2016, by which time I had to update to then-current system because I got a new job and needed latest Xcode to compile the iOS app. Surprisingly, I didn't hate the flatter design as much as I anticipated. But of course I still miss skeuomorphism. The worst transition for me was Big Sur (or, more precisely, Mojave -> Monterey when I bought a new MacBook in 2021). The useless margins, th…

I agree; I don’t like the iOSification of the UI/UX, and I also don’t like the increased locked-down nature of macOS, such as having to go through a nag screen whenever I use lldb. I still prefer Macs over Windows for work-issued hardware, but for my personal equipment, I never upgraded beyond Mojave. When combined with the lack of user-serviceability on the latest Macs, I switched back to PCs a few years ago after n…

In my opinion both Windows and Linux are much worse than even modern macOS, so I'm going to keep using it for the foreseeable future, but being rather conservative with installing updates.

On hardware, my M1 Max MacBook Pro is the best laptop I've ever owned, period.

Re: Show HN: OS X Mavericks Forever

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why intel? i never want to use a intel mac again

Well, if your goal is to get away from modern macOS, your options are Intel or PowerPC...

PowerPC you have Leopard or Tiger, the latter being "faster" but more limited. You can also install the version of Leopard someone added Snow Leopard beta parts to, which I do have on my PPC MacMini, but it still gives you limited returns.

With PowerPC you might be better looking at a third party. I hear good things about MorphOS, though never tried it. You could do Linux too.

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