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Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by tapper »

userbinator wrote: post #64
nine_k wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anybody find it funny that sci-fi movies have to heavily distort "robot voices" to make them sound "convincingly robotic"? A robotic, explicitly non-natural voice would be perfectly acceptable, and even desirable, in many situations. I don't expect a smart toaster to talk like a BBC host; it'd be enough is the speech if easy to recognize.

A robotic, explicitly non-natural voice would be perfectly acceptable, and even desirable, in many situations[...]it'd be enough is the speech if easy to recognize. We've had formant synths for several decades, and they're perfectly understandable and require a tiny amount of computing power, but people tend not to want to listen to them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Automatic_Mouth https://simulationcorner…

Yeah blind people love eloquence

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

klipklop wrote: post #91

I tried it. Not bad for the size (of the model) and speed. Once you install all the massive number of libraries and things needed we are a far cry away from 25MB though. Cool project nonetheless.

Usually pulling in lots of libraries helps develop/iterate faster. Then can be removed later once the whole thing starts to take shape.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by riedel »

mayli wrote: post #4

Is this english only?

Actually I found it irritating that the readme does not mention the language at all. I think it is not good practice to deduce it from the language of the readme itself. I would not like to have German language tts models with only a German readme...

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by raybb »

divamgupta wrote: post #111
antisol wrote: post #103

System Requirements Works literally everywhere Haha, on one of my machines my python version is too old, and the package/dependencies don't want to install. On another machie the python version is too new, and the package/dependencies don't want to install.

We are working to fix that. Thanks

Have you considered offering a uvx command to run to get people going quickly?

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

nine_k wrote: post #3

I hope this is the future. Offline, small ML models, running inference on ubiquitous, inexpensive hardware. Models that are easy to integrate into other things, into devices and apps, and even to drive from other models maybe.

Dedicated single-purpose hardware with models would be even less energy-intensive. It's theoretically possible to design chips which run neural networks and alike using just resistors (rather than transistors).

Such hardware is not general-purpose, and upgrading the model would not be possible, but there's plenty of use-cases where this is reasonable.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by tapper »

divamgupta wrote: post #109
belchiorb wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn’t seem to work on Safari. Works great on Chrome, though

Hmm, we will look into it.

You should post on the NVDA email list. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Or the Screen reader list: https://winaccess.groups.io/g/winaccess FYI blind people do not like any lag when reading that’s is why so many still use eloquence and espeak.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by ricardobeat »

tapper wrote: post #130
mlboss wrote: post #9

Reddit post with generated audio sample: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mhyzp7/kitten_...

Sounds slow and like something from an anine

Speech speed is always a tunable parameter and not something intrinsic to the model.

The comparison to make is expressiveness and correct intonation for long sentences vs something like espeak. It actually sounds amazing for the size. The closest thing is probably KokoroTTS at 82M params and ~300MB.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by dented42 »

tonypapousek wrote: post #50
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #14

say is only 193K on MacOS ls -lah /usr/bin/say -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 193K 15 Nov 2024 /usr/bin/say Usage: M1-Mac-mini ~ % say "hello world this is the kitten TTS model speaking"

Tried that on 26 beta, and the default voice sounds a lot smoother than it used it. Running `man say` reveals that "this tool uses the Speech Synthesis manager", so I'm guessing the Apple Intelligence stuff is kicking in.

Nothing to do with Apple Intelligence. The speech synthesiser manager (the term manager was used for OS components in Classic Mac OS) has been around since the mid 90s or so. The change you’re hearing is probably a new/modified default voice.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by smusamashah »

mlboss wrote: post #9

Reddit post with generated audio sample: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mhyzp7/kitten_...

The reddit video is awesome. I don't understand how people are calling it an OK model. Under 25MB and cpu only for this quality is amazing.

Re: Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model

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Post by a2128 »

Aardwolf wrote: post #127
blopker wrote: post #8

Web version: https://clowerweb.github.io/kitten-tts-web-demo/ It sounds ok, but impressive for the size.

On PC it's a python dependency hell but someone managed to package it in self contained JS code that works offline once it loaded the model? How is that done?

ONNXRuntime makes it fairly easy, you just need to provide a path to the ONNX file, give it inputs in the correct format, and use the outputs. The ONNXRuntime library handles the rest. You can see this in the main.js file: https://github.com/clowerweb/kitten-tts-web-demo/blob/main/m...

Plus, Python software are dependency hell in general, while webpages have to be self-contained by their nature (thank god we no longer have Silverlight and Java applets...)

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