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Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by ponector »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #56
theptip wrote: post #23

I like the general idea, and I’ve been surprised this hasn’t taken off elsewhere, eg citizen videos for traffic violations like blocking intersections, it seems these should be ROI positive for the city to implement (lower enforcement costs, more ticket revenue).

I really don't understand why anyone would want this Do you really want to live in a society where we're monitored for even the slightest infractions at all times and automatically punished regardless of any circumstances that might explain the behavior?

I would like to live in a society where everyone is strictly following traffic regulations. Almost every rule there is written with someone's blood.

Also basics driving rules like zip merge will make traffic better.

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by theyknowitsxmas »

dang wrote: post #118
theyknowitsxmas wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything goes. All you need is $10, a few proxies and AI promps for viral marketing. Don't forget to flag posts you don't like with your sock puppet accounts.

If you're sure about this, I'd like to see a link or two to specific cases.

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Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by yodsanklai »

vineyardmike wrote: post #36

Within the last year or so, I discovered my city’s 311 app, which I’ve become addicted to. I don’t drive, so I’m always walking around the neighborhood, and got in the habit of always reporting graffiti, dumping, illegally parked cars, etc. This had inspired me to try and make a few apps for civic use, but I discovered that many of the accessible web tools for my city have rules against bots. For example, the city ma…

> always reporting graffiti

How does your city deal with graffitis? mine is plagued with graffitis and I can't see how they can be fought. It takes too much resources to remove them in a timely manner and impossible to catch the perpetrators.

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by gametorch »

yodsanklai wrote: post #133
vineyardmike wrote: post #36

Within the last year or so, I discovered my city’s 311 app, which I’ve become addicted to. I don’t drive, so I’m always walking around the neighborhood, and got in the habit of always reporting graffiti, dumping, illegally parked cars, etc. This had inspired me to try and make a few apps for civic use, but I discovered that many of the accessible web tools for my city have rules against bots. For example, the city ma…

> always reporting graffiti How does your city deal with graffitis? mine is plagued with graffitis and I can't see how they can be fought. It takes too much resources to remove them in a timely manner and impossible to catch the perpetrators.

Yeah, graffiti is a real big problem compared to surveillance tech. Lol.

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by gametorch »

nerevarthelame wrote: post #124
gametorch wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, that makes it a little less dystopian. But you make money off people snitching. And you're setting the stage for something far worse, imo.

Is it still "snitching" if the reporter, as the person breathing the unnecessarily polluted air, is a victim of the crime?

Yes.

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by dcsan »

yodsanklai wrote: post #133
vineyardmike wrote: post #36

Within the last year or so, I discovered my city’s 311 app, which I’ve become addicted to. I don’t drive, so I’m always walking around the neighborhood, and got in the habit of always reporting graffiti, dumping, illegally parked cars, etc. This had inspired me to try and make a few apps for civic use, but I discovered that many of the accessible web tools for my city have rules against bots. For example, the city ma…

> always reporting graffiti How does your city deal with graffitis? mine is plagued with graffitis and I can't see how they can be fought. It takes too much resources to remove them in a timely manner and impossible to catch the perpetrators.

And the cost is often on the small business owner

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by sadhnmods »

pvg wrote: post #122
gametorch wrote: post #82

Genuinely curious, why aren't people allowed to say this is dystopian without getting flagged? What rule, specifically, does that violate? I think this is dystopian. Paying people to rat out their fellow citizens. Nightmarish. What if this idea was applied to the laws ICE is trying to enforce? Would you think that's dystopian?

You regularly spam a generic generative ai ‘art’ thing on this site so of all people it feels like you’d have a broader, less kneejerky and more charitable view of what use of the technology is ‘dystopian’

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Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by gametorch »

pvg wrote: post #122
gametorch wrote: post #82

Genuinely curious, why aren't people allowed to say this is dystopian without getting flagged? What rule, specifically, does that violate? I think this is dystopian. Paying people to rat out their fellow citizens. Nightmarish. What if this idea was applied to the laws ICE is trying to enforce? Would you think that's dystopian?

You regularly spam a generic generative ai ‘art’ thing on this site so of all people it feels like you’d have a broader, less kneejerky and more charitable view of what use of the technology is ‘dystopian’

That's a fair point. It's hard to assess whether I'm being honest with myself about that.

But I know this app is truly evil in my system of morality.

AI art can be very soulless. Very dehumanizing. In certain sense.

But those two qualities are undeniably attached to surveillance states. In all senses. There is no argument against that.

Re: Show HN: Report idling vehicles in NYC (and get a cut of the fines) with AI

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

josephcsible wrote: post #125
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’d like to see is hard separation of roads and bike lanes. As a cyclist, nothing but a line painted on the road makes me feel unsafe, as a driver it’s difficult to not get nervous when passing a cyclist in the lane, and culturally drivers are generally favored over cyclists which results in things like parking in bike lanes not being adequately enforced. All these things would be solved by bike lanes being full…

> What I’d like to see is hard separation of roads and bike lanes. That's a great idea, as long as the hard separation goes both ways with bikes no longer being allowed in car lanes.

Doable, but would probably require bike paths to be wider than they currently are and split into two lanes: one for road bikers and one for everybody else.
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