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Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by kstrauser »

broken-kebab wrote: post #130
j1elo wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking in English, not in Go. The meaning doesn't change that much because of using uppercase initials. What you're referring to has already been consolidated as "source available".

I'm not a native speaker, but to me "open" sounds like it fits to the case when I can see the code. Am I speaking in Go?

No, it's just not speaking idiomatically. The term "open source", with or without caps, has a commonly understood meaning that's widely used. Whatever the individual words mean in the dictionary, together they have a well defined meaning. Applying it to other situations that contradict that meaning just adds confusion.

As an example, you could describe a spinning disk hard drive as "RAM" because it's a memory device you can randomly access. That would meet the dictionary definitions of "random", "access", and "memory". And yet, everyone would be annoyed with you for doing so. "I have 16TB of RAM in my computer!" "No you don't, Kebab. Stop saying that!"

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by loumf »

GlacierFox wrote: post #101

Random curious question. I was pondering the kanban backend. How do you store the order of the kanban cards in your database and keep that in sync with what's in the UI?

Here is the answer for Trello: each card and list has a field called “pos” which is a number. The initial values are spread out (e.g. 1000, 2000, 3000) and then when you move a card, it takes on the average of the two adjacent cards.

So, if I move the 3rd card to the 2nd position, its “pos” becomes 1500. This means it doesn’t have to constantly renumber the cards -- but, every once and a while, the server does reorder the “pos” fields for a whole list and send the new values down the socket.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by croes »

subpixel wrote: post #124

Trello pricing just got a lot more reasonable, but there is one feature that might get me thinking of moving: conditional logic in automations. Be advised that Trello is now $5/mo. It's gonna be hard to compete here.

You can’t trust US companies anymore, they easily can become a weapon in a trade war.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by bmacho »

Izkata wrote: post #100
kstrauser wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its license has strict limitations on what you can use it for. It’s not open source in any reasonable sense.

It is open source (the code is right there), but it's not Open Source due to what GP references. There is a distinction.

OFF: Can we do something about this "open source" = "Open Source" usage? I want the opposite, "open source" = "source available" usage, because

    - that's what the words mean. 
    - the concept of Open Source is better denoted by a Proper Noun anyway
I think the "open source" = "Open Source" usage will be a friction point forever if it stays. Can we ..

  - revert the usage to "open source" = "source available", or
  - decide that "open source" with small letters should not to be used (use "Open Source" or "source available" instead), or
  - defend "open source" = "Open Source" usage in a blogpost once and for all, and lessen this friction?

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by arcastroe »

wood_spirit wrote: post #120

This will sound crazy but I wish there was an open source “everything” app. If this could grow into a slack alternative (where channels can host a kanban board) with http bot api and built in charting and dashboards and python notebook snippets etc etc so we can get things in one place… that would be great!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_creep

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by bmacho »

broken-kebab wrote: post #130
j1elo wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking in English, not in Go. The meaning doesn't change that much because of using uppercase initials. What you're referring to has already been consolidated as "source available".

I'm not a native speaker, but to me "open" sounds like it fits to the case when I can see the code. Am I speaking in Go?

> Open source is source code that is made freely available for possible modification and redistribution. Products include permission to use and view the source code,[1] design documents,[2] or content of the product.

> Generally, open source refers to a computer program in which the source code is available to the general public for usage, modification from its original design, and publication of their version (fork) back to the community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by Xiol32 »

Closi wrote: post #96
Closi wrote: post #95

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A few other trivial bugs I have found: * Can create multiple workspaces with same name which then ticks both * Invite user seems to not work randomly or will not send the email * Cards with special characters like @ will just not be created, and won't show error messages.

oop found a security issue - you can abuse profile pictures to upload any file (e.g. to host malware if you were a bad actor!) IMO don't think this is ready for production use in the slightest - but cool project!

Would be interested to know if this was vibe coded.

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by johnisgood »

kstrauser wrote: post #131
broken-kebab wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a native speaker, but to me "open" sounds like it fits to the case when I can see the code. Am I speaking in Go?

No, it's just not speaking idiomatically. The term "open source", with or without caps, has a commonly understood meaning that's widely used. Whatever the individual words mean in the dictionary, together they have a well defined meaning. Applying it to other situations that contradict that meaning just adds confusion. As an example, you could describe a spinning disk hard drive as "RAM" because it's a memory device…

He is a broken kebab. We will fix him!

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by johnisgood »

tiffanyh wrote: post #105
henryball wrote: post #2

Hey HN, I couldn’t find an open-source alternative to Trello that I liked so I built my own. It’s fast, free and fully-customisable. You can self host it, or use the cloud version if you don’t want to manage your own infra. Repo -> https://github.com/kanbn/kan Cloud -> https://kan.bn Roadmap -> https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap I’d love feedback, bug reports, or any feature suggestions!

Feedback (since you asked) ... Using the kanban for your roadmap, https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap two things I noticed: 1. When I click a card, no data is present. It's just an empty card that says "Activity". 2. After you click a few cards, it hijacks your browser Back button.

+1

Re: Show HN: Kan.bn – An open-source alterative to Trello

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Post by andruby »

henryball wrote: post #2

Hey HN, I couldn’t find an open-source alternative to Trello that I liked so I built my own. It’s fast, free and fully-customisable. You can self host it, or use the cloud version if you don’t want to manage your own infra. Repo -> https://github.com/kanbn/kan Cloud -> https://kan.bn Roadmap -> https://kan.bn/kan/roadmap I’d love feedback, bug reports, or any feature suggestions!

Really cool you built this!

Can you elaborate a bit on what you were missing or didn’t like from the other existing open source Trello clones?

I’m curious what potentially different choices/trade-offs you made.

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