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Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by genewitch »

markus_zhang wrote: post #106
jamespo wrote: post #84

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Oracle RDBMS used to come with 20+ books, for PL/SQL, C bindings, Fortran etc etc... I don't want those days back!

I'd like to take a cup of coffee, take out one of those books (not super interested in Oracle TBH but could be some other low level stuffs) and read it through. OK I know reality is much less appealing than that. But I still prefer paper books than .CHM help files than really online documents.

i have the minix book i am looking to do this with; the last time i read a book in this style was the TCP/IP book (the oversized wide one).

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by PeterStuer »

vunderba wrote: post #51
lolinder wrote: post #49

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> currently on PyCharm. ... Cons: Subscription business model. ... Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me. I'm curious to understand this better (as a fan of JetBrains): do you currently use PyCharm Community or does the JetBrains model not count as a subscription for you?

Chiming in here, Jetbrains is a subscription model, but with a very important qualifier in the form of a perpetual fallback license once you stop paying. It's an important distinction, and I wish more businesses would follow this model.

Techsmith does this as well and I love it. I'm still on a perfectly usable 5 year old version of Camtasia.

https://www.techsmith.com/

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by PeterStuer »

adamc wrote: post #80
lolinder wrote: post #49

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> currently on PyCharm. ... Cons: Subscription business model. ... Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me. I'm curious to understand this better (as a fan of JetBrains): do you currently use PyCharm Community or does the JetBrains model not count as a subscription for you?

Not the OP, but I have a subscription to PyCharm through work and still think it's inferior to VSCode. And I don't love vscode... In general, subscriptions are a high bar for me. You typically pay for them year after year but see minimal improvements. Back when I was doing Java development, I paid for my own copy of Idea just to get to use something good. But I don't think I would do that for a subscription.

I switched from VSCode to Pycharm a few years back. Both are very decent IDE's, but Pycharm feels to me more polished.

Pycharm is like driving an automatic, whereas VSCode feels like driving manual. It is a tradeoff as always, so ymmv.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by zipy124 »

alsodumb wrote: post #39

I am a robotics engineer/scientist and I do shit ton of visualization of all kind of high-fidelity/high-rate data, often in a streaming setting - time series at a few thousand Hz, RGB/depth images from multiple cameras, debugging my models by visualizing many layer outputs, every augmentation, etc. For a long time, I had my own observability suite - a messy library of python scripts that I use for visualizing data. I…

I've had rerun bookmarked for a few years and this comment is enough to persuade me to finally try it out. Currently I resort to notebooks for simpler stuff and just spinning up a quick GUI for anything more, I've always found the middle-grounds just as much work as having my own UI and less powerful. Using frameworks like IMGUI, spinning up my own high-performance video and plotting was as simple as <100 lines of code, and also gives me a base of something which can be shipped to a client if neccessary.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by croemer »

> And while notebooks are great for many things, they do make certain trade-offs that prevent them from being a full substitute.

Please elaborate on this. What are the tradeoffs?

I use VSCode and just add a magic comment #%% to split my Python script into cells and then I can run them as a notebook cell.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by slightwinder »

_blk wrote: post #32
999900000999 wrote: post #23

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Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.

Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that. Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.

Productivity is a very vague concept, which can't be measured easily in most cases. So it's also hard to justify a steep price. And it's not like there is no competition here. Visualizations aside, this IDE seems very generic and basic in what it offers. So chances are good that you would still use a better tool, to not lose productivity in other areas.

And most important, if you stop paying, you will lose the gain from it. If dev screws up at some point, you might lose the gain from it. It's not really clear how updates are working. Are you forced to always use the newest version? Or can you stay at a specific version for all time? This uncertain factors and other, demand that the gain from a subscription is so immense, that you are willing to take the risk. And this tool here is not there yet, maybe never will; making it hard to justify a sub.

> Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads..

Youtube is an external service. You are paying for their running costs, which you create. This IDE is local, and there is no guarantee which updates will come and which benefits they will have for you. So there is no "running cost" you create for them.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Post by westurner »

rcpt wrote: post #55
alsodumb wrote: post #39

I am a robotics engineer/scientist and I do shit ton of visualization of all kind of high-fidelity/high-rate data, often in a streaming setting - time series at a few thousand Hz, RGB/depth images from multiple cameras, debugging my models by visualizing many layer outputs, every augmentation, etc. For a long time, I had my own observability suite - a messy library of python scripts that I use for visualizing data. I…

For magnet levitation project I am dumping data to a csv on a rpi and then reading it over ssh onto matplotlib on my desktop. It works but it choppy. Probably because of the ssh. Could I drop rerun into this to improve my monitoring? https://youtube.com/shorts/Y1LGSMFisDc

From "Show HN: We open-sourced our [rpi CSV] compost monitoring tech" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42201207 :

Nagios, Collectd, [Prometheus], Grafana

From "Preview of Explore Logs, a new way to browse your logs without writing LogQL" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39981805 :

> Grafana supports SQL, PromQL, InfluxQL, and LogQL.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40164993 :

> But that's not a GUI, that's notebooks. For Jupyter integration, TIL pyqtgraph has jupyter_rfb, Remote Frame Buffer: https://github.com/vispy/jupyter_rfb

pyqtgraph: https://github.com/pyqtgraph/pyqtgraph

Matplotlib can generate GIF and WEBM (and .mp4) animations, but not realtime.

ManimCE might work in notebooks, but IDK about realtime

Genesis is fast enough by FPS for faster than realtime 3D with Python (LuisaRender) and a GPU: https://github.com/Genesis-Embodied-AI/Genesis

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