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Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by rwbayer »

This seems like a really cool idea! After downloading, I decided to delete it for the following reasons (some are duplicated in other comments):

- profile picture requirement -> this seems unnecessary

- unlocking additional access by inviting partner -> with the current value prop, it doesn’t seem like an app where both partners need to be engaged to get value

- the ideas presented on download weren’t as creative as I hoped -> the first few I swiped through before deleting were some variation on “Watch a movie and buy candy.” I understand I didn’t give you a lot of data on what our preferences are, but diversity would have helped keep me engaged at this phase

I look forward to revisiting the app in a future version. Again, cool idea!

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by europeanNyan »

The idea is very nice and the app seems good enough for what it is, but having to also create an account on my partner's phone and connecting with them defeats the whole purpose for me. I want to surprise them, not let them know that I installed an app, which they have to create an account for and connect to me, to surprise them.

I guess that the idea is to connect the personality test results between partners to find better suggestions, but please consider dropping that suggestion. With only 5 suggestions, this app is sadly getting deleted from my phone very soon.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by closewith »

_yb2s wrote: post #126
closewith wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is nothing disingenuous about that, and, frankly, most people wouldn’t care or couldn’t be bothered enough to actually do it. While I agree that there's nothing specifically wrong with using an app to inspire spontaneity, this seems oddly self-congratulatory. Actually, most long term partners manager to surprise each other just fine without an app. Just like using it wouldn't make you a bad partner, it doesn'…

Do they? Most marriages end in divorce, and most people I know in long term relationships are miserable. I think most people don’t manage fine and keeping a relationship strong is a skill that takes practice and deliberate effort to master.

Most marriages do not end in divorce. What nonsense.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

entropyie wrote: post #46

Wish it was a website instead of an app.

I could actually see an app making sense, because then you can easily do everything it does totally offline and private.

Of course, the fact that it wants to create an account rather undermines that.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

pjerem wrote: post #63
Joakim_Habekost wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, due to the national data laws in France we are not ready to launch there yet. Sorry.

What is this again ? You mean that you are not GDPR compliant for an app that generates random phrases ? It feels like there is something shady.

Yes its GDPR compliant. Our team has simply never made one of the Apple Appstore Required Encryption documents, and due to that we decided to be on the safe side, and therefore wait with France untill tuesday next week when we can get help with it.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by 3np »

Joakim_Habekost wrote: post #127
manuelmoreale wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Most of the internet requires one” is not a good reason to require one when one is not needed. By this logic most of the internet is full of ads so you should go ahead and add those. By looking at your site i don’t see why an account is even necessary and that’s probably why people are rightfully complaining about it.

Very true, it is not a good reason, we do this for now due to the security, users calendar, notes, and partner related information is truly personal, so for now it's much more secure. But it's really interesting to see all the feedback, so thank you!!

> Very true, it is not a good reason, we do this for now due to the security, users calendar, notes, and partner related information is truly personal, so for now it's much more secure.

...No?

"Much more secure" would be not saving anything on the server that doesn't need to go there in the first place (move things and logic to the client from the server - what value does the user get from uploading everything?)

Or if this is for syncing/backup purposes, at least encrypting data on the client before with a key only available to the client before uploading the encrypted data to the server (this sounds overkill and unnecessary for the goals of this app).

User data is a (in places legal) liability for you. Handling it properly will cost you time and money. Without extracting additional value ("selling") it, it is not in your interest to centralize it.

Simple rule of thumb: If you don't strictly require it to provide service to the user, don't strictly require it from the user. For optional functionality (email reminders, server-side push) requiring server-side to collect additional information, that information and functionality should also be opt-in. This is the gist of GDPR. As you note, many companies either (obliviously or not) flaunt it or employ dark patterns or legal chicanery to maliciously comply (courts are still out on the latter in many cases).

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

neilv wrote: post #120
josephrmartinez wrote: post #14

Congrats on putting this out there in the world! Quick landing page feedback: Could you update it so that the first two screen captures are not the same content? And then pick a different second example that isn't also about leaving a note? More variation in the landing page examples would give me a better intro. Is it possible to just call them "researchers at xyz institute" and link to their lab rather than "Scandi…

It might be inappropriate or disallowed to use the name of the institution in separate commercial promotion. But mentioning Scandinavian seems savvy. If they hadn't said they were Scandinavian, I would've assumed the startup was totally full of poo, because many of the signs thus far look like stereotypical US techbro sociopathy. If I had that reaction as a US techbro myself, then presumably some Europeans they might…

Thank you for answering for me. And yes this is the case, the contracts with Scandinavian Universities are very slow and heavy. But the process has started.

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

_yb2s wrote: post #129
Joakim_Habekost wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the comment above has been edited, me and my wife did not see the last sentence before now. It's very surprising to me that the Hacker News is so against having an account? Most of the internet requires one nowadays. I will keep following the direction/mood of the comments and react based a whole view, so far around +80 people have downloaded, with 4-5 people talked negatively about account requirements.

I added the last part later because I was really excited to try this until learning it required so much personal information up front just to see what it is. Generally I’m willing to create an account on a platform I trust, am familiar with, and certain will be useful. For this type of thing, I would not expect it to be necessary, so it feels weird, and makes me suspicious. It’s also just a hassle- usually apps like…

Haha good analogy, thank you for your comment! As said in some of the other comments, I am very surprised to see the push back on the account creation. I do have Guest Mode in the roadmap, but based on everybody's feedback, I will prioritize it much higher. Again thank you for taking your time to comment!

Re: Show HN: I created an app for you to be a more unpredictable romantic partner

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Post by Joakim_Habekost »

qot wrote: post #138

Can someone please upload the .apk somewhere? It's not available in my country (Canada).

Thank you for being so willing to try it, I hope to release it to Canada on Tuesday. If you are interested, I have an email list on the website, I will be sure to notify you.
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