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Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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Hi, first of all congrats for your effort, but I think this is hitting a little bit on the HN information/app hoarder mentality for many commenters and not from people actually planning to use it. I don't think that there is an extreme amount of transfer from learning the fretboard on your website and on the guitar, as there is a different context from using your mouse to select a note on a image representation of th…

Hey I personally think there's at least a 90%+ transfer rate. Whether thats extreme or not is left to your judgement. When I navigate the fretboard, a LOT of my navigation is done visually (based on the dot inlays, notes from other strings etc). If you want to know how much of your fretboard navigation is visual, try playing a guitar with no inlays and you can quickly find out.

Playing this game is forcing you to use those immediate visual cues to memorize the notes and that part transfers really well. The bit thats missing is

1) The game's perspective is artifical. Noone looks at their guitar like that. Thankfully our brains our fully capable of maintaining spatial orientation while handling perspective shift. You can stand in the middle of Manhattan , look at google maps and translate a squiggly blue line to a 3 dimensional navigation path that looks nothing like it. Fretboard navigation isnt that much different from Manhattan navigation if you think about it.

2) There's a lot that I know about my guitars from just the sense of touch. 4th string 2nd fret (E) feels very comfortable under my fingers. 3rd string 2nd fret (A) does not. The string cuts into my finger because its still thick but its not coiled. The same string on the 12th fret feels very different because of the tension and the raised action. All that sensory data associated with each note is lost when you use a poor facsimile like a computer game to substitute a real world concept. Which is why I view this as a supplement and not a substitution

Microphones...yeah...more work..more complexity for fewer gains IMHO. I view this as app as great for squeezing guitar time when you're without a guitar: Eating lunch at office desk, commuting by train/bus etc. That part gets lost with the microphone business

Anyways, long rant. Let me know what you think

Sorry that was a long rant.

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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I like it, my first reaction: wow, level zero is hard. I would rather have level zero not time-based. Or at least slowly fade-in some hints (like show another random note on the fretboard for guiding).

Try the practice area, it has no timer and you can select strings and notes to focus on. And stay tuned and sign up for updates if you can, I'll build a kinder, gentler learning module to go with the game

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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Great idea! - Name the chord (maybe give multiple choice) would be good - Popular tunings would be good perhaps as a hard mode. Fining G on standard tuning is one thing, but if you're tuned to D or playing a 7 string, things get interesting.

yeah, this might be the brainier people bias of Hacker News but there's been a lot of requests for alternate tunings. I might just give in and build it one of these days :).

Name a Chord with multiple choice is a great idea. Adding it to the list

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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Neat! I’m having some issues with how things are displayed on my iPhone. The low E string wasn‘t reachable for me. Musically speaking, I never really understood the point of knowing the notes on the fretboard. Scales, intervals and chords are waaaaay more useful to know. But I‘m self taught, so what do I know?

This is actually a bug of tabs that you don't even care what notes are being played.

I think it is why so often I hear people play and the strings aren't even tuned. "Who cares, it is just numbers on a finger board game." mindset.

No one on any other instrument ever would say musically, who cares what the notes are.

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

#136
woah. i created something similar recently. but my app lets play along by providing an easy way to interpret the chords of any song you can think of. i built a really neat interactive music player that breaks the song down by bpm, pitch, key, and (of course) a preview of the upcoming chords and when to play them.

https://www.nevertwenty.live

lets collab?

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

#137
interesting game. I like the old Rocksmith 2014 remastered game a lot to learn guitar. It also has some mini games inside, e.g. scale racer and other stuff. The main drawback of that one is that the note names are not really shown so you don't memorize it and have to actively do it yourself.

anyway, maybe you find some inspiration from that game...

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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post #137

interesting game. I like the old Rocksmith 2014 remastered game a lot to learn guitar. It also has some mini games inside, e.g. scale racer and other stuff. The main drawback of that one is that the note names are not really shown so you don't memorize it and have to actively do it yourself. anyway, maybe you find some inspiration from that game...

Thank you, I’ll check it out

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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Cool could you extend this to cello finger board?

oh man...how would that even work for a fretless instrument. Genuine question, not rhetorical

Well it is fretless, but really a cellist has a mental image of it and that is a “fret board”. The only difference is there’s no tactile feedback - you just get a feel for spacial placement and have to make millisecond corrections based on auditory feedback of pitch.

This fret fly app would be super helpful to a beginning cellist. This goes for those other, lesser stringed instruments as well btw.

Re: Show HN: I created a game to memorize the fretboard

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Signed up for mailing list but app is completely broken for me on Firefox, won't start at all, couple of errors in console, but nothing in Privacy badger or Ublock.

im sorry to hear that. I want to make sure this works for you. Could you give me a couple more details? 1. Desktop or Mobile? 2. Whats the exact behavior? Is there a button that doesnt respond? Would a screenshot help clarify? 3. If Desktop, Can you screenshot the web inspector console? I know I'm asking for a lot but I'd really appreciate it Thank you

It started working! No idea, I’m going to try and fiddle with the browser and try to break it again. I did see a few JavaScript errors in the console but not sure if they were caused by: a) my blacklisting at DNS level b) my browser plugins c) other security setup locally

But I will let you know. Good job btw!

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