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Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by npsimons »

rzodkiew wrote: post #15

I feel like I'm out of touch with current western culture, I honestly feel like I'm becoming an old fart at the age of 30. Everything is becoming increasingly infantile. Everything has to be fun and cool. I'm wondering where is this trend coming from. Is this some sort of a social response to how terrible and bleak reality seems to be? Or maybe it's because we actually treat majority of people like little children. I…

> Or maybe it's because we actually treat majority of people like little children.

At 42, I've felt this is the cause for quite some time. You see it in things like the adult Disney woman[0]. Part of it is playing it safe so as not to offend the conservatives with a nipple, but market forces have been driving movies this direction as well[1].

Gutting education to dumb down the populace hasn't helped.

[0] - https://youtu.be/vLIfkiF8NeQ

[1] - https://www.gq.com/story/the-day-the-movies-died-mark-harris

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

#132

Post by rorykoehler »

treve wrote: post #86
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, I think the younger generations are “up to” the exact same stuff. I should write a post about college campus ID culture. It’s always fun to break out a pseudonym.

My understanding is that going out, (binge-)drinking has actually significantly gone down in the last decade. I can't vouch for these specific stats, but I've come across multiple articles over the years that support this. Here's at least some data I found: https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/binge-drinking Anecdotally, tons of clubs have closed in since the 90's with no replacement where I lived (Toronto and Nort…

I randomly landed and browsed through Courtney Loves Twitter today and she posts lots of pictures of partying in the early 90s with other celebs. It’s the antithesis of what is cool today. Just looks like a train wreck really.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by meowkit »

jetpks wrote: post #71
xienze wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A related development I find interesting is the increasing denial of accountability. More and more, people focus on the ways that things aren't their fault or focus on things that they can't change. This is 100% on what's being taught in schools and colleges (critical race theory).

Can you provide peer reviewed sources for your claim that critical race theory leads to lack of accountability?

CT/CRT promotes an external locus of control as the source of societal problems. In other words, its not the fault of the individual/human hardware its the fault of the patterns that society has entrenched aka systemic racism or the software of a culture.

Its a top down theory/solution to what critics would argue is a bottom up problem. Individuals must be responsible for what they say, how they regulate their emotional state, and how their experiences and cognitive distortions skew their thinking. CT/CRT, by my understanding, argues against this. Thus it seems reasonable to say it leads to a lack of accountability if you define accountability as a responsibility for ones actions and beliefs.

I’ve read a small bit on CT/CRT, intersectionality, and the modern culture of safetyism. Primarily from Haidt who has more peer reviewed sources on things than anyone could ever want.

https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Gen...

https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Relig...

I find CT/CRT to be compelling to a degree, but it brings along with it too much baggage in my opinion. You’re likely not going to find or be given a specific source of data that says CRT leads to lack of accountability (however you would measure that), its an assumption made by the previous poster. You don’t need one either to have a discussion, so don’t fall back on the lack of academic evidence as an argument in itself.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

#134

Post by tcoff91 »

woah wrote: post #106

I was interested in building something like this when COVID-19 first hit. I think it's still a space with a lot of potential, but there are now a huge number of competitors. I made a spreadsheet and add to it each time I see one of these products come up on HN: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R5DXWtz4H7eIT5VbGYJE... There are currently at least 18 projects operating in this space. - The majority (maybe all?)…

Mozilla Hubs is the best 3d browser-based spatial audio platform I've tried yet by far. I hosted a virtual party in the first lockdown back in April and it was pretty fun and far far better than a zoom call due to the spacial audio. Unfortunately it did become a bit unstable past 15-18 people and you'd have to rejoin the session frequently when it started to crap out under higher load.

There already is a popular platform that fits what you are describing: VRChat.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by nickelcitymario »

I'm digging the idea of spacial audio, but for my 2 cents I do not enjoy the interface. It seems to encourage a lot of loud geocities/MySpace-era visuals.

I'd be interested in a top-down 2D space (like a million games, but just for example: Among Us) with spatial audio. That'd be pretty interesting.

Judging by what my kids like to play, I could see a place in the market for a 2D virtual world with this kind of feature. Create your own spaces, "decorate" them, plus spatial audio. That sounds like a winning combo.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by rorykoehler »

matsemann wrote: post #26
rzodkiew wrote: post #15

I feel like I'm out of touch with current western culture, I honestly feel like I'm becoming an old fart at the age of 30. Everything is becoming increasingly infantile. Everything has to be fun and cool. I'm wondering where is this trend coming from. Is this some sort of a social response to how terrible and bleak reality seems to be? Or maybe it's because we actually treat majority of people like little children. I…

Or just because going to work is more fun when it's.. fun? I spend 8 hours a day there, I want to show who I am and I prefer my coworkers doing the same. Especially the last 9 months. Normally one would talk with coworkers in the office, over a coffee, before a meeting etc. Remote meetings I find are strictly business.

It’s so dystopian. There is such a narrow window of what is acceptable behaviour in the workplace. I get along with and like my colleagues but my relationship with them will never be as genuine as it can be once I don’t work with them anymore. There is no upside and tons of downside to being yourself. It’s just not worth it.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by brianjunyinchan »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #135

I'm digging the idea of spacial audio, but for my 2 cents I do not enjoy the interface. It seems to encourage a lot of loud geocities/MySpace-era visuals. I'd be interested in a top-down 2D space (like a million games, but just for example: Among Us) with spatial audio. That'd be pretty interesting. Judging by what my kids like to play, I could see a place in the market for a 2D virtual world with this kind of featur…

Check out gather.town

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by dragonwriter »

rorykoehler wrote: post #132
treve wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that going out, (binge-)drinking has actually significantly gone down in the last decade. I can't vouch for these specific stats, but I've come across multiple articles over the years that support this. Here's at least some data I found: https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/binge-drinking Anecdotally, tons of clubs have closed in since the 90's with no replacement where I lived (Toronto and Nort…

I randomly landed and browsed through Courtney Loves Twitter today and she posts lots of pictures of partying in the early 90s with other celebs. It’s the antithesis of what is cool today. Just looks like a train wreck really.

Er, Courtney Love was widely perceived as a trainwreck in the 90s, so her Twitter being full of now-seen-as-trainwreck stuff from the 1990s probably isn’t a good measure of change from the 1990s to now.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by rorykoehler »

postingpals wrote: post #44
matsemann wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just because going to work is more fun when it's.. fun? I spend 8 hours a day there, I want to show who I am and I prefer my coworkers doing the same. Especially the last 9 months. Normally one would talk with coworkers in the office, over a coffee, before a meeting etc. Remote meetings I find are strictly business.

Why do you have to make work fun, shouldn't you already be enjoying it if you are doing what you want to do? Are you not doing what you want to do? See, that's the kind of problem that creates the infantilisation.

It’s not fun when you have to do it.

Re: Show HN: I built the antithesis of Zoom. Add GIFs, stickers, BGs. Talk like IRL

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Post by rorykoehler »

ironmagma wrote: post #122
rzodkiew wrote: post #15

I feel like I'm out of touch with current western culture, I honestly feel like I'm becoming an old fart at the age of 30. Everything is becoming increasingly infantile. Everything has to be fun and cool. I'm wondering where is this trend coming from. Is this some sort of a social response to how terrible and bleak reality seems to be? Or maybe it's because we actually treat majority of people like little children. I…

Play is the natural state of life. It’s a better question to ask why everything else is so staid and un-fun. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25481758

Because we have to work to survive in the current system. If I didn’t have to work and could take risks (I.e. have fu money) I’d do roughly the same thing in a very different way.
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