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Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by shykes »

cryptolect wrote: post #119
Lazare wrote: post #62

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Yes. Emerging best practices seems to be to use Vagrant to create a great development environment, then use docker containers inside that for isolation. The two work together quite well. There's a comment from the Vagrant creator here about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6291549 In short, yes, just run a VM.

I don't get the need for Vagrant? Are you suggesting to use Vagrant solely for those not developing on a host capable of running Docker? If my host _can_ run Docker, what value do I get from running it inside Vagrant instead?

We recommend using vagrant as a simple vm management tool, to quickly get a simple VM on your machine.

If your host can already run docker containers, you don't need vagrant.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by lost-theory »

recuter wrote: post #104
recuter wrote: post #86

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So, hi there. I'd like to invest in you guys, where do I send the cheque? :)

No response yet, hmm. Seriously, guys, I have a $100 bill here with your name on it.

I'm sure you can find some of the developers here: http://www.gittip.com/.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by Lazare »

cryptolect wrote: post #119
Lazare wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Emerging best practices seems to be to use Vagrant to create a great development environment, then use docker containers inside that for isolation. The two work together quite well. There's a comment from the Vagrant creator here about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6291549 In short, yes, just run a VM.

I don't get the need for Vagrant? Are you suggesting to use Vagrant solely for those not developing on a host capable of running Docker? If my host _can_ run Docker, what value do I get from running it inside Vagrant instead?

Vagrant is a useful way to very quickly get a Docker capable host. You wouldn't use it for production, no.

For development, if you're running on OS X or Windows (in which case, my condolences), you basically have to use a VM. If developing on Linux, it's a tossup; the complexity and overhead of Vagrant versus the pain and annoyance of fooling around with kernels and dependencies.

I use a Mac for day-to-day development, so a simple Vagrant VM is a no-brainer. :)

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by apathetic »

thepicard wrote: post #60
edbyrne wrote: post #17

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Hey - thanks a million - that's the plan!

Speaking of digitalocean, are you guys affiliated at all? Because I get a digitalocean vibe from your pricing/terminology/etc. for some reason.

are they?

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by rmoriz »

mic159 wrote: post #67
rmoriz wrote: post #47

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If you offer infrastructure services and don't eat your own dogfood you can't be serious. If you offer infrastructure services and don't tell people where and how you provide it, you can't be serious, too.

But if you host your site on your infrastructure, and it goes down, you can't post status updates to tell people what's going on/ when you will be back online. Its quite reasonable to not host your own homepage or mechanism of updating your customers IMO.

I disagree. Your website should run on your own infrastructure and a separate status page, under a different (sub)-domain should be operated from another AS (autonomous system) e.g. statuspage.io or whatever you like/prefer.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by gizzlon »

peteforde wrote: post #66
Angostura wrote: post #15

I love the fact that you keep trying to define your own vocubulary 'Deck' etc, but always have to explain it. Best to stick with the more eaily understood term, rather than invent your own, I think. Unless you're going to try and trademark them all.

Heroku created almost as many new terms as Tolkien, and they seem to have made out just fine.

Looked at Heruko once, but all the custom lingo really put me off it.. But, of course your point about them being successful stands

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by justincormack »

ojbyrne wrote: post #39
rmoriz wrote: post #32

> We’re using dedicated because running virtual containers on virtual instances seems nuts to us. but a traceroute points to AWS…

Perhaps http://aws.amazon.com/dedicated-instances/

Those are still virtual, just no one else is on your box.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by gexla »

Matsta wrote: post #78

Hmm StackDock.com is hosted on a server at Hetzner in Germany. I don't 100% know if the containers themselves are hosted by Hetzner or not, but Hetzner is more of a budget provider than something you host production sites on. I've heard many mixed review about their network and mostly their support which isn't up to scratch. We'll see what happens but from what I see, if someone decides to abuse the service, Hetzner…

Of course, with the prices these guys are charging, they are certainly going with a budget host.

Since Docker is still in beta, it's not production ready yet anyways. Docker could still go through a lot of changes between now and 1.0.

ETA: Whoops, I got the pricing wrong. It's $5 per instance. I was thinking you would get 1GB of RAM and 20GB of space to run as many containers as you like. That makes it not as cheap as I was originally thinking.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by thomaslutz »

Matsta wrote: post #78

Hmm StackDock.com is hosted on a server at Hetzner in Germany. I don't 100% know if the containers themselves are hosted by Hetzner or not, but Hetzner is more of a budget provider than something you host production sites on. I've heard many mixed review about their network and mostly their support which isn't up to scratch. We'll see what happens but from what I see, if someone decides to abuse the service, Hetzner…

Hetzner surely has gone downhill over the years (quality and pricewise), and support was better 8 years ago, but to say you would not host a production site there is a pretty bold statement.

If you need real HA you should perhaps use more than one provider anyway. Or what are your recommendations?

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by StavrosK »

shykes wrote: post #91
terhechte wrote: post #77

I like the idea. Really cool. I've been researching docker a lot lately, and did most of my recent development on Core OS. I do have a question that wasn't immediately obvious: Docker maintains that one should make a container out of every application so that instead of having to install apache + mysql + php in one Ubuntu environment, you'd create three docker containers (apache, mysql, memcache) and run them togethe…

There is a new feature of Docker called Links which allows you to organize your stack in multiple containers and "link" them together so they can discover and connect to each other. There's a great explanation here: http://blog.docker.io/2013/10/docker-0-6-5-links-container-n...

I tried to deploy a Django application with Docker a few weeks ago (using a single image with supervisord), only to discover that, during "docker build", I needed the database already running (so Django could create its database), which was pretty much impossible using a single Docker image and a Dockerfile.

With the new Links functionality, this is much easier, but are you planning to ever have the ability to use a single Dockerfile to deploy an application which may contain multiple images (with links between them)? I want to be able to do "docker build ." and have my application up and running when it finishes.

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