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Re: Show HN: Micasa – track your house from the terminal

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Post by fix4fun »

cheema33 wrote: post #101
mrpf1ster wrote: post #9

Looks good - I like the TUI a lot. The only thing with that type of interface is that there is no chance my wife would use it via the terminal. It would be cool if there was a web UI as well - so other members of the household could access and use it.

This. If I am the only one who can use it and only from one computer, it would be entirely useless for my needs. I have several computers and also family members who would need access to that data. A Google Docs spreadsheet would be a better tool for my specific needs I think.

I think the same. Why overcomplicate and just use some online Spreadsheet like from Google Docs. The same or even less effort.

Re: Show HN: Micasa – track your house from the terminal

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Post by apsurd »

kadrian12 wrote: post #117

This is quite cool. Makes me philosophical: isn't it odd, that this is like an Excel template? Like a "domain model" template? In this case, presented nicely in a TUI that makes basic CRUD workflows work. Most SaaS companies are just that: 1) Curated domain model (stored in their cloud db) 2) Some way for users do to almost raw CRUD on the tables 3) Curated high-level domain specific workflows that do n CRUD calls un…

I've always stubbornly bemoaned how everyone seems to love to work in spreadsheets. Undeniably the world's power-tool.

I've never liked them, never learned to work with them, and instead spent 20 years learning to program and make my own db-backed crud interfaces.

Your points are spot on. But I'd like to defend a sliver of my stubbornness about it all; a product built for a specific use or domain exports the _education_ and information architecture of that domain. Sure it's all rows and columns in a db, and a spreadsheet is just that exposed to the user, but a "product" and its creator/company gets to design and prescribe a learning experience. And I think that's the magic and the value. That's what I'm holding onto!

Re: Show HN: Micasa – track your house from the terminal

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Post by candiddevmike »

lanyard-textile wrote: post #118
candiddevmike wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for ironically proving my point, I guess. The main value add here is everything is integrated into one app. I always wonder if folks said the same thing when Salesforce or SAP were created. Anyways we document our reasoning here: https://homechart.app/docs/explanations/architecture/#separa...

Kindly -- I think this is a symptom of the larger issue, right? You shouldn't need a document to help persuade the consumer (or the more technically inclined ones anyway). That magic should just be self evident. We don't need a document to understand why the iPhone was a hit, right? Doesn't matter if you have the greatest app in the world. If it overwhelms the user on first use, it's simply not going to be used. I ag…

> You shouldn't need a document to help persuade the consumer

For the most part we don't. They get it, they have the frustration with duplication, and they see the value of our pricing being the same or cheaper than one or two of the apps their paying for.

The harder part as I said in the original comment is no one is searching for a household data solution. It's not a thing that exists to people, and we don't advertise (mostly) as "a budgeting app" or "a to-do app", so the persuading if you want to call it that comes from catching these buyers and showing them that yea, we do that, and so much more.

Re: Show HN: Micasa – track your house from the terminal

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Post by erader »

order-matters wrote: post #110
erader wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been working on something like this the last few months specifically around service quote analysis (repairs, construction, hvac, auto, etc.) and it's really cool. I think LLM analysis is the way to go because the amount of complexity is absolutely staggering - just to start the difference in quality and information available on a quote is drastically different between vendors within the SAME vertical. Then to do…

how do you handle the LLM hallucinations in analysis? I like it for data extraction but i never trust it to analyze anything

First, I've spent a ton of time becoming opinionated about a normalized data model that supports the product experience I'm trying to build. This applies both to the extraction (line items, warranty sections, vendors, etc.) and the analysis portion. The latter is imperfect, but aligns philosophically with what I'm willing to stand behind. For example

- building outputs for price fairness (based on publicly available labor data)

- scope match (is vendor over/under scoping user's intent)

- risk (vendor risk, timeline, price variability, etc.)

- value (some combination of price, service, longevity, etc.)

I don't get much hallucinations in my testing, but overall it's pretty complex pipeline since it is broken down into so many steps.

Re: Show HN: Micasa – track your house from the terminal

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Post by iguana_shine »

kadrian12 wrote: post #117

This is quite cool. Makes me philosophical: isn't it odd, that this is like an Excel template? Like a "domain model" template? In this case, presented nicely in a TUI that makes basic CRUD workflows work. Most SaaS companies are just that: 1) Curated domain model (stored in their cloud db) 2) Some way for users do to almost raw CRUD on the tables 3) Curated high-level domain specific workflows that do n CRUD calls un…

There was once a time when tools like Microsoft Access and FileMaker Pro were common. These were a database and custom GUI designed using a drag and drop editor. I don't know whether these apps ever had network server capability or if they were always offline or why they died out. It was a bit before my time
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