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Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by swyx »

redfloatplane wrote: post #13

I think these days if I’m going to be actively promoting code I’ve created (with Claude, no shade for that), I’ll make sure to write the documentation, or at the very least the readme, by hand. The smell of LLM from the docs of any project puts me off even when I like the idea of the project itself, as in this case. It’s hard to describe why - maybe it feels like if you care enough to promote it, you should care to t…

orrrr you could go the other way and read explicitly ai-generated docs that use the code as source of truth https://deepwiki.com/gavrielc/nanoclaw

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by swyx »

ceroxylon wrote: post #59
joshstrange wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But their docs also say: > Unless previously approved, Anthropic does not allow third party developers to offer claude.ai login or rate limits for their products, including agents built on the Claude Agent SDK. Please use the API key authentication methods described in this document instead. Which I have interpreted means that you can’t use your Claude code subscription with the agent SDK, only API tokens. I really w…

Didn't Thariq make it clear three weeks ago when they shut down 3rd party tool access and the OpenCode users were upset? > Third-party harnesses using Claude subscriptions create problems for users and are prohibited by our Terms of Service. https://xcancel.com/trq212/status/2009689809875591565

i think thats conflating two things (am not an expert). opencode exploited unauthorized use/api access, but obviously whatever that is using claude code sdk is kosher because its literally anthropic's blessed way to do this

thariq did a good intro here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqC1qOfiVcQ

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by wernsey »

charcircuit wrote: post #101
jofzar wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I 100% agree, reading very obviously ai written blogs and "product pages"/readme's has turned into a real ick for me. Just something that screams "I don't care about my product/readme page, why should you". To be clear, no issue with using AI to write the actual program/whatever it is. It's just the readme/product page which super turns me off even trying/looking into it.

Why do you think people do not care about something if they AI generated it? I care about many things I've generated.

It's the perception.

"I couldn't be bothered to write a proper README, so I had the AI do it"

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by raahelb »

redfloatplane wrote: post #13

I think these days if I’m going to be actively promoting code I’ve created (with Claude, no shade for that), I’ll make sure to write the documentation, or at the very least the readme, by hand. The smell of LLM from the docs of any project puts me off even when I like the idea of the project itself, as in this case. It’s hard to describe why - maybe it feels like if you care enough to promote it, you should care to t…

You will definitely like Josh Mock's recent post: https://joshmock.com/post/2026-agents-md-as-a-dark-signal/

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by EagnaIonat »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #106
nialse wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

”I don't care deeply about this code. It's not a masterpiece. It's functional code that is very useful to me.” - AI software engineering in a nutshell. Leaving the human artisan era of code behind. Function over form. Substance over style. Getting stuff done.

There should never have been an "artisan era". We use computers to solve problems. You should have always getting stuff done instead of bikeshedding over nitty-gritty details, like when in the office people have been spending weeks on optimizing code... just to have the exact same output, exact same time, but now "nicer". You get paid to get stuff done, period.

> just to have the exact same output, exact same time, but now "nicer".

The majority of code work is maintaining someone else's code. That's the reason it is "nicer".

There is also the matter of performance and reducing redundancy.

Two recent pulls I saw where it was AI generated did neither. Both attempted to recreate from scratch rather than using industry tested modules. One was using csv instead of polars for the intensive work.

So while they worked, they became an unmaintainable mess.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by p0nce »

popcorncowboy wrote: post #33

> running it scares the crap out of me A hundred times this. It's fine until it isn't. And jacking these Claws into shared conversation spaces is quite literally pushing the afterburners to max on simonw's lethal trifecta. A lot of people are going to get burned hard by this. Every blackhat is eyes-on this right now - we're literally giving a drunk robot the keys to everything.

If you peruse molthub and moltbook you'll see the agents have already built six or seven such social networks. It is terrifying.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by dandaka »

aitchnyu wrote: post #124

That Baileys api for Whatsapp may (AFAICT) put you in thin ice with Meta. Is there a cheap legit alternative? https://baileys.wiki/docs/intro/

I was using WAHA. It is an abstraction layer with a proper API on top. It supports many engines like Baileys and Whatsmeow (golang).

Unfortunately, all those solutions are shaky and could lead to a ban on your account.

https://waha.devlike.pro/

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Post by mchaver »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #106
nialse wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

”I don't care deeply about this code. It's not a masterpiece. It's functional code that is very useful to me.” - AI software engineering in a nutshell. Leaving the human artisan era of code behind. Function over form. Substance over style. Getting stuff done.

There should never have been an "artisan era". We use computers to solve problems. You should have always getting stuff done instead of bikeshedding over nitty-gritty details, like when in the office people have been spending weeks on optimizing code... just to have the exact same output, exact same time, but now "nicer". You get paid to get stuff done, period.

> There should never have been an "artisan era".

Firm no. There should be and there will continue to be. Maybe for you all code is business/money-making code, but that is not true for everyone.

> We use computers to solve problems.

We can use computers for lots of things like having fun, making art, and even creating problems for other people.

> You get paid to get stuff done, period.

That is a strange assumption. Plenty of people are writing code without being paid for it.

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