Is there any option to self-host in an air-gapped environment?
Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
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Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#122© 2025 dock. your team's home base.
Should be 2026, happy new year!
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#123Just wondering: Does anyone here use Discord as a Slack alternative? Meaning for Work™. Why and why not?
I've been using it for a small startup, not in a regulated space (not defense, fintech). So far no issue, but I keep thinking I'm missing something (maybe it's just "You use gamerz tool for work lol???")
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#124Just wondering: Does anyone here use Discord as a Slack alternative? Meaning for Work™. Why and why not? I've been using it for a small startup, not in a regulated space (not defense, fintech). So far no issue, but I keep thinking I'm missing something (maybe it's just "You use gamerz tool for work lol???")
Lack of control over moderation. If a person says something spicy and other person in company reports it, it goes to discord moderation and be banned for few days (or at worst case, forever). Also no way to use enterprise auth.
But other than that it's better chat platform than any other I used and it is very versatile when it comes to programming it, if you need it. Making flow like "you need to go thru the rules, then you get access to rest of the server" is possible, I even saw cool stuff like "click this reaction to get subscribed to that group of channels"
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#125I'm with you on the frustration with Slack and every month when I see our bill I consider forcing the company to change. My co-founder and I tried moving to Google Chat. We already pay for workspace so why not. What kept us on slack is the external partners who are on slack. This is a bigger deal than you might think. Google chat doesn't allow you to add external members unless they were added at the creation of the…
I’m very puzzled by Google chat to be honest. It’s a massive missing piece in the Google workspace toolchest. Teams is the central place for companies on Microsoft, and arguably the most sticky part of the MS cloud productivity stack. So it can’t be lost on Google how important it is to have something here. Google slides, docs, sheets are fantastic products, but Google chat is so clunky and awkward that it seems hard…
History of Google text/voice/video chat is frankly insane, they refuse to just have a product and develop it, instead every few years the new thing pops up and the old thing gets deprecated.
They should've been dominating the space for near 2 decades now. Instead they had Google Talk (that even worked over XMPP!) then replaced it with google hangouts, and then Google Chat.
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#126I'd love a self hosted version of something that isn't IRC, allows easy sharing if media. Decoupling from US based companies seems to be prudent with the USA threatening war on the EU and any tools that can help us do that are welcome. I would not use this tool simply because it is not increasing self reliance, it just exchanges one US based company for several others.
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#127I run a company that services 1,000+ clients on Slack, another 300+ on Teams, and a I wouldn't wish Teams on my worst enemy, so in that regard, I love Slack The thing I struggle with the most is how I'd move all of our core functionality from Slack. A lot of the people/teams that build these "Slack killers" I don't think have ever run Slack at scale How are you going to replace the 30+ in-house apps I've built that a…
Feels like the more important question is how are you going to do all these things when Slack cuts you off, or there is some new Slack policy that prevents it, or they increase their pricing by 1000% Haven’t you basically built your entire business on this singular proprietary platform they you have almost no control over?
Ok, but what stops same from happening with any other solution? There are two things that would "fix" it:
* Fully open and interoperable protocol: We had it (XMPP), it was flawed, but at one beautiful moment in time it worked and using same protocol I could contact both google and facebook contacts. Then the companies decided "no, we would prefer to keep a walled gardens rather than make it easy to move to competition.
* Fully open source (no open core nonsense, latest Mattermost rugpull from OSS part users being one example why) chat platform with corporate backing and SaaS option - there is Matrix but afaik it is lacking feature-wise, tho I havent used it much. With plugin app store so it is possible to make and even sell integrations with other systems.
Second option seems more viable but it takes a lot of effort to make something as good as Slack or Discord
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#128> Free forever for teams up to 5. Unlimited search, unlimited history. I understand the strategic value of offering unlimited features to differentiate from competitors like Slack, might drive some amount of anxiety. Buyers may question long-term sustainability or fear undisclosed "shadow" caps. Since engineering limits are inevitable to prevent abuse (especially on free accounts), it might be better to set specific,…
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Just sell extra storage at reasonable price. That's the most transparent system you can get.
Some users will never hit more than few GBs as it will be near only text. Other people will share 100MB video clips daily or use it as easy way to transfer files betweeen users in company
Maybe have option to expire attachements at separate timer or ability to set a cap where oldest files get removed if it is passed for cost-control-concious companies
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#129I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…
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In terms of data sovereignty and security, the location of your servers is irrelevant if you're a U.S.-based company, thanks to the CLOUD act[1] (emphasis mine).
> The CLOUD Act primarily amends the Stored Communications Act (SCA) of 1986 to allow federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored on servers regardless of whether the data are stored in the U.S. or on foreign soil.
So, are you a U.S.-based technology company?
Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss
#130Can it do something that Framasoft's Mostlymatter (or any other Mattermost fork) can't do?