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Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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I think people understand the odds are small. However, perhaps they perceive their chances of meaningfully turn around their life in other ways have even smaller odds. i.e. improbable vs actually impossible. At least the lottery doesn't care about your current circumstance and everyone has an equal (equally small) chance. Secondly, because everyone realizes the chances are small, the real product being sold is Hope.…

> At least the lottery doesn't care about your current circumstance and everyone has an equal (equally small) chance. Not really true. If you have more money you can buy more tickets which leads to higher— or even certain —odds. https://www.iflscience.com/how-a-man-won-the-lottery-14-time...

> If you have more money you can buy more tickets which leads to higher—or even certain—odds.

I don't think there are any lotteries with that feature. You can guarantee that you win, but you still won't have certain odds because the payout isn't guaranteed.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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I think people understand the odds are small. However, perhaps they perceive their chances of meaningfully turn around their life in other ways have even smaller odds. i.e. improbable vs actually impossible. At least the lottery doesn't care about your current circumstance and everyone has an equal (equally small) chance. Secondly, because everyone realizes the chances are small, the real product being sold is Hope.…

Very well said.

The lottery used to be a guage of my level of hopelessness. If I was feeling hopeless I would buy a ticket.

Luckily I haven't bought a ticket for years.

I used to buy one every week.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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I’m at the point where I take it as a red flag when someone doesn’t understand this, and instead bangs on about “low odds” and “the idiots that think that they’ll win”. A combination of superficial booksmarts, a misplaced sense of elitism, and a very real lack of emotional intelligence, that I know that I don’t enjoy being around. There’s definitely a low end on this bell curve, but I think that your average Joe Blow…

There's a difference between buying hope, and decreasing the quality of what you do have significantly for false hope. The hope of winning the lottery is essentially false hope, but false hope is better than nothing, that's true. But look at LatencyKills post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46474645 if someone is buying 100s of dollars worth of lottery tickets that's a real problem, I'm sure you understand that…

On cue, you demonstrate exactly what the previous poster was talking about. Every single HN user understands how the lottery works. I wish I knew an alternative word to "mansplaining".

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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> At least the lottery doesn't care about your current circumstance and everyone has an equal (equally small) chance. Not really true. If you have more money you can buy more tickets which leads to higher— or even certain —odds. https://www.iflscience.com/how-a-man-won-the-lottery-14-time...

> If you have more money you can buy more tickets which leads to higher— or even certain —odds. I don't think there are any lotteries with that feature. You can guarantee that you win, but you still won't have certain odds because the payout isn't guaranteed.

> I don't think there are any lotteries with that feature.

It’s in the link I posted.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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> If you have more money you can buy more tickets which leads to higher— or even certain —odds. I don't think there are any lotteries with that feature. You can guarantee that you win, but you still won't have certain odds because the payout isn't guaranteed.

> I don't think there are any lotteries with that feature. It’s in the link I posted.

Did you try reading the only other sentence in my comment?

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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If 1 through 6 are drawn you'd probably have to share your winnings with many more people than most other combinations.

Given how much people are avoiding 1 through 6, I think you'd probably be better off picking that.

This is interesting but IMO it's very likely to be chosen more often than average.

If you choose a random number, then for each other player your chance of picking the same numbers as them is the same as your chance of winning: in the case of Powerball, 1 in 292,201,338 = 0.0000000034. If you instead non-randomly choose 123456, then for each player that actively avoids 123456 your chance of picking the same numbers as them only decreases by 0.0000000034 (from 0.0000000034 to 0). But for each player that actively chooses 123456, your chance of picking the same numbers as them increases by 0.9999999966 (from 0.0000000034 to 1).

We could model this more precisely by looking at the other players' choices as semi-random with some combinations weighted higher and some lower, but you see my point: even if lots of people are repelled by 'obvious' sequences like 123456, this can be outweighed by a very small number being attracted to them.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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Given how much people are avoiding 1 through 6, I think you'd probably be better off picking that.

This is interesting but IMO it's very likely to be chosen more often than average. If you choose a random number, then for each other player your chance of picking the same numbers as them is the same as your chance of winning: in the case of Powerball, 1 in 292,201,338 = 0.0000000034. If you instead non-randomly choose 123456, then for each player that actively avoids 123456 your chance of picking the same numbers a…

I do see your point, but I doubt this probability analysis was done by the people who say "what? The numbers will never be drawn in a sequence like that". It's not that they want to avoid common numbers.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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This is interesting but IMO it's very likely to be chosen more often than average. If you choose a random number, then for each other player your chance of picking the same numbers as them is the same as your chance of winning: in the case of Powerball, 1 in 292,201,338 = 0.0000000034. If you instead non-randomly choose 123456, then for each player that actively avoids 123456 your chance of picking the same numbers a…

I do see your point, but I doubt this probability analysis was done by the people who say "what? The numbers will never be drawn in a sequence like that". It's not that they want to avoid common numbers.

Agreed! I don't think it undermines your original point, and IMO the linked site could do some good by giving people a better intuitive sense of just how low the odds are.

Re: Show HN: Website that plays the lottery every second

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Well there are lotteries with lower payout and "a better chance". ...but anyway, are you really arguing that rich people live way more dangerous?

I genuinely meant that lottery winners got murdered at a noticeable higher rate. However I can't find a good source for that belief now. So I'm happy to drop the belief. Nevertheless, here's an article from an untrustworthy looking site! https://www.grunge.com/1301397/lottery-winners-murdered/

Ok, so America.

In Europe, or at least in Germany, they don't name drop. If the jackpot was very high, like >100M you can sometime hear in the news something like "the win goes to nord Bavaria." But that's it. The winners even get schooled on how to stay low. Only talk about the win in the family. Open an new bank account in a big city and not at your village bank. Don't immediately quit your job. Don't invest in shady shit etc.

If you self select to be public about it, that is on you. And there are people who do. Most talk about it after they have lost a lot of money and are in debt now. They thought they are set for life. So they raise their living standard drastically. Give out big gifts etc. And "suddenly" 10M isn't that much money anymore. :-)

But yea, I agree that lottery is stupid. Put the money on savings.

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