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Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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Your "journey" as far as i can tell is just your marketing journey. Youve just joined two months ago, and show nothing much beyond marketing posts or requests for help with marketing. not selling me on not being a bunch of old dudes using a kids image to sell a unsafe and poor quality product. if you genuinly are a kid, i'd recommend not using your age as a selling factor. Thats something someone would do to appeal t…

If i'm selling to students (kids) would they not be more interested in an app made for them by someone like them?

you're selling the 16 year old angle on HN, where 20 years old and younger represents about 2% of the demographic. You're getting an unusually high level of negative responses in comments as well, so I am curious, did you buy 'upvotes' for your post to boost it? I can't imagine such a disconnect between upvotes and comments arising from controversy, since the project isn't controversial, just unremarkable and somewhat amateur.

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To answer your question: Personally? I don't think so. When I was 16 I was aware of how little I knew, and knew that by virtue of units life lived vs units experience possible to have gained, there was likely little to nothing I knew sufficiently enough about to be relied on over most adults, with the exception of, at the time, tech. Then, this was only true given how niche it was, so niche most folks did not yet even have a computer or even internet access. If it was common place for folks to access, even that would not have been true. So for that reason, I saw no reason, it shouldn't also be true for my peers. For that reason I would give low weighting to whatever peers offered. For example, that one friend who claimed to have all the answers when it came to girls/women, why would you treat them as anything other than full of shit? Or that friend who might claim to know more on a topic than our teacher. While plausible in some domains, it is extremely unlikely in general like the know-it-all would have claimed and required a higher burden of proof than they could provide. That being said, this humility came from having constant reinforcement that my assumptions were overly simplistic, or outright wrong. This reinforcement tempered an otherwise self-indulgent world view and sense of self. I have to wonder how things like sycophantic AI influence this aspect of natural human development. Terrible ideas reinforced as world changing and awesome, ideas lacking in depth or nuance left not only unchallenged but outright reinforced and celebrated.

So, do I think kids would trust another kid to develop a worthwhile tool? Not in my generation, but perhaps kids in your cohort have a different attitude. They are inheriting a world on the brink of collapse due to mismanagement and are largely guided by sycophantic AI, and I have no illusion that this would breed a level of resentment and disregard for what older generations have to say / offer. You'd know better what kids your age would like and how they'd respond than I do by virtue of lived experience and my lack of insight on that demographic's wants/needs/perception of things, but if what was true for my cohort is true for yours, it would not help you sell your product.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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Yep it's 100% AI, the format of the homepage is exactly what you get when you ask for a homepage from ai

Or I saw Marc Lou and his format and got some idea from him.

look, you seem like might really just be a genuine kid, genuinely trying. Stay away from youtubers like mark lou, they're grifters. A rule of thumb I'm sure near all here will agree with me on is that "get rich quick" content creators have plagued every human medium from speech to books to the internet, and they have never, EVER, been right.

They make their money from fooling others. Stick to educational channels. Learn to code. Learn a valuable skill you can take pride in. Mark lou and the like will at best teach you to grift, and learning to grift is not the way to a good life. You clearly have a knack for tech, but know if it's easy, then something is almost surely wrong. Anything that would be easy to exploit becomes incredibly competitive, making it hard. There are no easy wins in life, beyond those you were born to.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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I've already pointed out why a scammer might make this mistake - adding credibility to the "im 16" angle. lets take the HN account, created 9 days ago. No "2008" or anything of the sort. Only in the prominantly displayed email. Only to help support the lie that helps gain attention. It reeks. It reeks of the marketing tactic along the lines of "my brother is autistic, here's my subpar contribution of "their" work to…

You're right I have no coding skill. But testing out Lovable and bringing my idea to reality made me realize this is something I want to learn so I've already began taking a course learning how to code softwares of my own. People should't be "scared" of these LLM's it's just a tool that shows coding to a wider audience.

That's a really positive outcome, one I am personally supportive of. Learning to code is a rewarding journey.

Now, while I am not scared of LLM's, I am scared for users who use them inappropriately.

I use LLM's extensively, and so I am intimately familiar with the dangers they pose to the uninitiated. I would HEAVILY caution against relying on LLM's until you can read and understand the code your asking LLM's to write comfortably.

Personally, I would recommend you first learn to code in a language of interest, then use LLM's to automate the stuff that has become second nature. The stuff you can pump out mindlessly. This takes the burden of monotonous tasks of your hands, and you have the expertise to check the LLM output for glaring issues. It's still not fully automated but it's much faster if you can write something complex, critical, or sensitive, while the LLM churns out boiler plate and routine chunks. You then comeback later and proof read the LLM output.

Trusting AI code you yourself don't understand is a recipe for disaster. You claim your users data will be private, but then have to rely on AI jank to keep this data safe, if it is even safe. It might just throw everything into publicly accessible folders. What happens when you promise safety, but don't actually provide any. What happens when a users data is then stolen? Who does the court hold accountable? you? the LLM you blindly trusted?

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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I do appreciate that your post is genuinely trying to come from a good place, but I can’t say I agree with any of it. By that I don’t just mean the analysis of this specific submission but also your tangent points about AI. People have used tools to enable creativity for the entirety of human history. The definition of what tools are acceptable and which are cheating is a subjective one and often defined by the age o…

I also appreciate where you're coming from and it's likely we wont agree, due to a difference in fundamental values (neither being better imo, just different), but i value the discourse and world view broadening that conversations like this offer no less. So let me preface this with the fact i value your input and think your point is not just valid, but true if i allow myself to evaluate all this under a different va…

When viewed from the context of looking for novel submissions on HN, I can definitely sympathise with your point of view here.

I do also appreciate the patience and time you’ve taken to share your perspective too.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

#125

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It’s shared with OCR, and gpt o3 but they don’t save any of the information and the ai doesn’t learn from previous uploads.

Okay that checks out. I would suggest removing the claim that your user's data is never shared from your FAQ: Is my data private? Yes. Your uploads are secure, never shared, and can be deleted anytime.

Your right, I’ll make this change, thanks.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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If i'm selling to students (kids) would they not be more interested in an app made for them by someone like them?

you're selling the 16 year old angle on HN, where 20 years old and younger represents about 2% of the demographic. You're getting an unusually high level of negative responses in comments as well, so I am curious, did you buy 'upvotes' for your post to boost it? I can't imagine such a disconnect between upvotes and comments arising from controversy, since the project isn't controversial, just unremarkable and somewha…

I mean I got good feedback and only improved my app from this post, and got in contact with cool people. I’ll call it a win :). We can agree to disagree, your point is valid. And no I didn’t even know you could buy upvotes, I think the only people commenting are because I said I’m 16.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

#127

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Or I saw Marc Lou and his format and got some idea from him.

look, you seem like might really just be a genuine kid, genuinely trying. Stay away from youtubers like mark lou, they're grifters. A rule of thumb I'm sure near all here will agree with me on is that "get rich quick" content creators have plagued every human medium from speech to books to the internet, and they have never, EVER, been right. They make their money from fooling others. Stick to educational channels. Le…

This is the best comment here! I made this app not with making money in mind, but knowing I want an obtainable skill that I can leverage with applying to schools/jobs. I’m not here to make money quick, I want to build something with meaning, and I don’t think that’s possible with someone’s first app. This is the first step in learning to reach my meaningful idea.

Re: Show HN: I’m 16 years old and working on my first startup, a study app

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First time making an app lol. Thanks for letting me know.

If you're actually 16, this is really nice and you are way ahead for your age, congrats :) You got a little stick here because some people have used this claim falsely for marketing and are actually not 16. If you are, keep going - you will smash it :)

Thank you
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