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Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by echoangle »

piltdownman wrote: post #118
echoangle wrote: post #49

As others have already said, think about what you're doing when you use this. If you connect a not-selhosted LLM to this, you're effectively uploading chat message with other people to a third-party server. The people you chat with have an expectation of privacy so this would probably be illegal in many jurisdictions.

Except basically all of Europe is one-party consent, and things like tech support call centres are already doing variants of this for years.

One-party-consent only means you can legally record something, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're allowed to share it with (non-government) third parties later.

It could be legal to record and use as evidence in court later, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to share it with some AI company.

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by worldsavior »

berkes wrote: post #79
worldsavior wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't plan it because they have no use for it. They only care about the metadata. When you talked to this person; your wife; at what time of day; was it at night; how long is the message; was there a product mentioned in the message; was the message about sports; etc.

They don't plan it, because so far, they don't have the keys to do so. We do need to trust Meta that they really don't, to some extent, but people way smarter than me have researched the WA implementation of the Signal protocol and it seems solid. I.E: Meta appears to simply be unable to read what you chat and send. (but TBC: they do see with whom and when you do this, just not the contents).

They don't have the keys, but they probably can get them.

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by piltdownman »

echoangle wrote: post #121
piltdownman wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except basically all of Europe is one-party consent, and things like tech support call centres are already doing variants of this for years.

One-party-consent only means you can legally record something, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're allowed to share it with (non-government) third parties later. It could be legal to record and use as evidence in court later, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to share it with some AI company.

They TOS utilisation of the data under 'Quality and Training purposes', with implied consent by engagement with the service in question - the breadth and application of which has never had a test case to my knowledge.

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by yonatan8070 »

berkes wrote: post #79
worldsavior wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't plan it because they have no use for it. They only care about the metadata. When you talked to this person; your wife; at what time of day; was it at night; how long is the message; was there a product mentioned in the message; was the message about sports; etc.

They don't plan it, because so far, they don't have the keys to do so. We do need to trust Meta that they really don't, to some extent, but people way smarter than me have researched the WA implementation of the Signal protocol and it seems solid. I.E: Meta appears to simply be unable to read what you chat and send. (but TBC: they do see with whom and when you do this, just not the contents).

What prevents them from simply pushing an update that quietly uploads private keys or unencrypted messages to their servers

Presumably they use proper HTTPS, so all the data is essentially encrypted twice, if they just concatenate some packets with keys, it would be extremely difficult to detect as you'd need to decrypt HTTPS (which is possible if you can install your own certificates on a device), then dig through random message data to find a random value you don't even know.

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by abenga »

CarlitosHighway wrote: post #9
samastur wrote: post #6

Cool work, but I'm more fascinated by your claim "99% of your life is stored in WhatsApp...". Not even remotely true for me even if it would encompass all messaging apps I use. I guess I'm just an old introvert, but it makes me wonder how life looks like for those for whom it is true.

The way to absolute dominance of WhatsApp with the Normies has't been sufficiently analyzed, I reckon. Somehow, WhatsApp managed to become extremely popular and heavily used by people who have trouble switching on a desktop pc. Even senior citizens have no trouble using it. Is it because they have a high motivation to use it? The UI / UX of WhatsApp surely isn't great, I'd even say it's quite bad. Where am I wrong? W…

Whatsapp has absolutely taken over communication in the world (aside from the US for some reason)? Funerals, trips, fund-raisers, even interacting with businesses is now done on WhatsApp in my country. When briefly I decided to try to de-Meta my life, I found that it was one service I absolutely cannot do without and still function as a member of my family and community.

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

karn97 wrote: post #113
JonnyaiR wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my mom showed me her phone the other day - she had updated her Whatsapp App and now the search bar has changed from "search your chats" to "search chats or ask Meta AI anything". I've googled a bit but did not find an option to disable meta AI and also found no definitive answer what Meta AI actually does - if i search for a chat, does it use this chat as context to provide answers? does it run locally (i highly doub…

Whatsapp has no meta ai built in

I have whatsapp open on my phone right now. There is blue-pink button on the home screen in the lower right corner. If you press it, it switches to a chat that says "Ask Meta AI anything".

Re: Show HN: WhatsApp MCP Server

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Post by thegreathir »

If this thing is connected to someone's WA and I ask "Who is your girlfriend?", the AI theoretically could list all the chats, read some messages in each chat, determine who could be the partner and return the name to me :)) I can go ahead and ask "What was the last fight about".
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