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Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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What that comment is describing is already here. A colleague sent an email that was obviously AI-generated (bloated, repetitive, low signal-to-noise ratio). I guess he's quite new to the team and it's a sign of formality, but I really don't mind if you send me just the bullet-point notes... Why are we going through this encoding-decoding process? I think succinctness and low-noise writing will be treasured in the age…

> Why are we going through this encoding-decoding process? I think succinctness and low-noise writing will be treasured in the age of AI. I hope so, because I hope this will lead to making it OK to skip the manual encoding process. After all, AI isn't doing anything new here - it's automating the customary need for communication to be in wordy prose paying right respects to right people. Maybe people will finally see…

perhaps, but humans are human, and building relationships require a culturally appropriate carrier wave - especially in global work

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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post #93

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Paprika is a fantastic recipe filing app that distills bloated pages into just the facts.

I’ll check it out. I’ve just been asking chatgpt for recipes lately and it’s doing a great job. The other night I made béchamel sauce for the first time (cooking for 6 dinner guests!). ChatGPT nailed it. I’m 2% sad for all the recipe websites it’s ripping content from. But then I remember what utter Adsense cancer they all are. “My mum made this recipe! You’ll never guess step 6!” While being plastered with 8 auto pl…

I mean, that's fair to some extent.

But on the other hand you could have just purchased any cookbook that covers the basics, instead of taking all this web-scaped content without attribution or compensation. I mean, look, I totally get it and I'm certainly guilty of this too - but let's not pretend that we're not basically stealing other people's content here. Much of the time those people running those recipe websites are just trying to cover their hosting costs and make a squeak of money on the side.

A friend of mine tried to set up a website that would host open-source recipes for people - he called it The Open Sauce - but in the end there just wasn't enough input from recipe creators.

Also, and by the way, the top google hit for bechemal is this : https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/139987/basic-bechamel-sauc.... Few ads, and the recipe is at the top of the page. No life story in sight.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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post #93

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I’ll check it out. I’ve just been asking chatgpt for recipes lately and it’s doing a great job. The other night I made béchamel sauce for the first time (cooking for 6 dinner guests!). ChatGPT nailed it. I’m 2% sad for all the recipe websites it’s ripping content from. But then I remember what utter Adsense cancer they all are. “My mum made this recipe! You’ll never guess step 6!” While being plastered with 8 auto pl…

I mean, that's fair to some extent. But on the other hand you could have just purchased any cookbook that covers the basics, instead of taking all this web-scaped content without attribution or compensation. I mean, look, I totally get it and I'm certainly guilty of this too - but let's not pretend that we're not basically stealing other people's content here. Much of the time those people running those recipe websit…

Apparently the recipe for bechemal sauce dates back to at least 1733. I think it’s pretty fairly in the public domain at this point. Those poor “content creators” are also just copying the recipe from someone else, just like chatgpt is. I’m sure I even own multiple cookbooks which cover the recipe - it’s just easier and faster to ask chatgpt than go hunting in my bookshelf.

I feel a little sorry for the good quality cooking websites out there. I’m just so burned by the bad ones that I’d rather skip the Google search. ChatGPT is also a straight out better resource because I can ask followup questions to chatgpt - “How much should I make for 6 people?” / “What is rue, anyway?” “It’s been a few minutes and my milk isn't thinkening. Am I doing anything wrong?” - etc. It’s an incredible cooking aide at my level of skill.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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post #96

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> One guy pays the AI to dig a hole, the other guy pays the AI to fill in the hole. Back and forth they go, raising the BNP but otherwise not accomplishing anything. Not accomplishing anything would be better than what is actually happening. Like with the hole example, once you fill it back up there’s a good chance you can still tell a hole was dug in that place. What does “BNP” stand for in this context?

Could be a swede who meant "GDP" (BNP = BruttoNationalProdukten = Gross Domestic Product)

More plausible than "British National Party".

Does it raise GDP, though? I would have thought a more accurate thing to say is it raises the global temperature.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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post #96

I bookmarked this comment a few months ago because I thought it was hilarious and increasingly accurate: It's approaching a very strange situation where people make overly wordy and bloated AI generated content and other people try to use AI to compress it back into useful pellets vaguely corresponding to the actual prompts used to generate the initial content. Which were the only bits anybody cared about in the firs…

> One guy pays the AI to dig a hole, the other guy pays the AI to fill in the hole. Back and forth they go, raising the BNP but otherwise not accomplishing anything. Not accomplishing anything would be better than what is actually happening. Like with the hole example, once you fill it back up there’s a good chance you can still tell a hole was dug in that place. What does “BNP” stand for in this context?

Norwegian, Danish, and Swedish all use BNP (Brutto National Product) for GDP. It could be German, although BIP is more common there (Brutto Inlands Product).

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What that comment is describing is already here. A colleague sent an email that was obviously AI-generated (bloated, repetitive, low signal-to-noise ratio). I guess he's quite new to the team and it's a sign of formality, but I really don't mind if you send me just the bullet-point notes... Why are we going through this encoding-decoding process? I think succinctness and low-noise writing will be treasured in the age…

> Why are we going through this encoding-decoding process? I think succinctness and low-noise writing will be treasured in the age of AI. I hope so, because I hope this will lead to making it OK to skip the manual encoding process. After all, AI isn't doing anything new here - it's automating the customary need for communication to be in wordy prose paying right respects to right people. Maybe people will finally see…

I don't see this happening. People learn wordy prose in education: an assignment requires certain amount of words, but the student is either unwilling or unable to come up with information-packed content and resort to padding with fluff. Some become copywriters, some middle managers, some HR. Eliminating fluffery makes these positions, built around wrangling as much written word as possible, suddenly obsolete and consequently people, because writing well masked fluff is their main marketable skill. There's very strong feedback loop working against information dense written word.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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We are at a day and age where information source are now once again valuable.

Before you would buy books and newspaper to get information, then it became free with the internet and ads, and the information quality quickly decreased, now it's becoming once again required to look for 'non ai', non ads and paid information source because the alternative is an increasingly waste of time.

This website it showed me by default is USA today website, even with ublock when I tried to read through the original website I could only see a little box of text between a video taking half the screen on the bottom and 'up next' thing on the top.

I suggest everyone to look for quality and non biased information source, it still does exist, and pay for it.

You don't need to learn everything to make it worth it, but when I want to know about something going on, its worth it to know I got the best of the best information and don't have to look on a dozen different website.

In France la croix is a good information source.

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