Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: Thoughts on Flash in 2023, in Flash, in 2023

newgrounds.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

121–126 of 126 posts

Re: Show HN: Thoughts on Flash in 2023, in Flash, in 2023

#121

Post by npteljes »

bryceneal wrote: post #98

It's fascinating to observe the dramatic shift in perceptions around Flash on Hacker News over the past 5-10 years. As I recall, discussions mentioning Flash were once dominated by near-unanimous complaints about its flaws, and there was an overwhelming sense of relief when it was announced that it would be deprecated. Now, the narrative has evolved to appreciate the unique creative value Flash provided and the disti…

I think it's because Flash means more than one thing to people. As a plugin, it was horrible for multiple reasons: insecure, undiscoverable, pain to view at different resolutions, etc. As a creative outlet, it was awesome, it enabled a lot of people to express themselves, and others to take part in a culture.

Re: Show HN: Thoughts on Flash in 2023, in Flash, in 2023

#123

Post by whywhywhywhy »

rchaud wrote: post #91
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash was the language of web art. I don't know what is the new language for that anymore P5, which while excellent and better than flash for many reasons it’s not the same thing. The true beauty of flash was seeing the cool games and animations online a kid could pirate a copy of flash and then the way the tech worked it lulled you in with simple animation tools but you were forced to interact with code to control…

p5.js is to Flash....what D3.js is to making a bar chart in Excel. Here is the code required to just render a circle in p5: >function draw() { > stroke(50); > fill(100); > ellipse(x, y, 24, 24); } In Flash you would just click the Oval icon and draw one.

True true, now draw a ellipse programmatically or line that follows the mouse in Flash and you'll see this flip round and P5 is easier.

Both have their benefits, P5 is far superior for creating interactive digital art or creative tooling. Flash is far better at creating intricate animations.

Re: Show HN: Thoughts on Flash in 2023, in Flash, in 2023

#126

Post by egypturnash »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #118
egypturnash wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was there during the WPH era, when there was a hybrid digital/physical process. The workflow was boards>layout>inks>painstaking hand-optimization of scanned inks in some autotrace program that's long gone>Flash>color>animation. The parts that John interfered with the most were layout and animation. The Flash side wasn't allowed to draw a damn thing, we just chopped up approved drawings and moved them around.

So I just watched WPH as I haven't seen that one before and noticed the cat was similar to the one in the Weird Al Yaknovic music video for No Cigar . I don't know if personally you had a hand in that one, but all in all, the show looks pretty good for 1999 and probably looked less stiff on a CRT than it does on my phone.

I didn't touch that video but that yeah that sure is Cigarettes in it.

The WPH crew was pushing really hard on what could be done in the medium of a Flash cartoon delivered via a dialup modem, but it sure is hard to look at most of that animation now.

Post reply on HN