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Post by kortilla »

effingwewt wrote: post #107
vinniejames wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not greed, it's licensing. Copyright owners wouldn't allow it, facilitating copyright infringement isn't good business

Still greed if you ask me, how would it be different from me renting a movie at home and having friends over? I dread the day when we have forced ocular/ear implants that allow for the blocking of anything we dont have a license for. Nonetheless I get your point, I just believe it's sad that for all the innovation a free market touts, all I remember are the cool/amazing/interesting things they took from us by stiflin…

> for all the innovation a free market touts, all I remember are the cool/amazing/interesting things they took from us by stifling real innovation.

What? The market brought you the personal computer revolution, the mobile phone revolution, the internet revolution, your Xbox, etc and “all you remember” is shared movie viewing?

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Post by errantspark »

jakebasile wrote: post #113
errantspark wrote: post #27

My friends and I do this through Discord. One person shares their screen playing netflix/disney/whatever and then everyone just hangs out in voice and watches together. It's a really seamless experience and the re-encoding is usually not a problem, action scenes can get a little blocky but the quality is really pretty great.

Whenever I tried this, HDCP or similar DRM kicked in and the video was blacked out. How did you get around it?

I've never encountered this at all! Honestly I've never in my life had any problems with HDCP, guess I'm just lucky, I constantly hear about it being problematic.

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Post by viklove »

40four wrote: post #118
dylan604 wrote: post #109

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Technically, when you rent a movie, you are not allowed to invite friends over to watch it with you. By renting the title, you were granted a temporary private viewing license. Inviting people over constituted a public viewing. Copyright laws are ludicrous.

First off, great concept! I would like to try this at least once. But second, is that really true? I’m actually curious. I can’t imagine watching a rented movie in a private residence would be considered a ‘public’ viewing. If that is the case, where do they draw the line? Is it literally only for myself, the one person who purchased the rental? How many other people can be in the room? One, two, five , before the te…

He's wrong. No one has, or ever will be prosecuted for renting a movie and watching it with their friends in their living room.

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Post by adrianmonk »

effingwewt wrote: post #107
vinniejames wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not greed, it's licensing. Copyright owners wouldn't allow it, facilitating copyright infringement isn't good business

Still greed if you ask me, how would it be different from me renting a movie at home and having friends over? I dread the day when we have forced ocular/ear implants that allow for the blocking of anything we dont have a license for. Nonetheless I get your point, I just believe it's sad that for all the innovation a free market touts, all I remember are the cool/amazing/interesting things they took from us by stiflin…

> how would it be different from me renting a movie at home and having friends over?

It would be different because Netflix has a contract to pay money for that licensed content, and sooner or later, that contract will need to be renewed. At that point, a Hollywood exec and a Netflix exec will sit across a boardroom table, and the Hollywood exec will say, "Your offer sounds OK, but we need to stop this watch party thing."

Whether that demand makes sense to your or I or the Netflix exec is moot. The Hollywood exec wants it, and it doesn't matter why, because they get to decide whether Netflix can keep licensing that content.

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Post by irjustin »

This is really interesting. A Seattle startup where I am friends with a number of the old staff: BuddyTv [0]

It makes me sad that the idea didn't work out and in times other than this... it still won't work out. But it's glad to know there are times when this absolutely valued.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuddyTV

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Post by mrmonkeyman »

adrianmonk wrote: post #124
effingwewt wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still greed if you ask me, how would it be different from me renting a movie at home and having friends over? I dread the day when we have forced ocular/ear implants that allow for the blocking of anything we dont have a license for. Nonetheless I get your point, I just believe it's sad that for all the innovation a free market touts, all I remember are the cool/amazing/interesting things they took from us by stiflin…

> how would it be different from me renting a movie at home and having friends over? It would be different because Netflix has a contract to pay money for that licensed content, and sooner or later, that contract will need to be renewed. At that point, a Hollywood exec and a Netflix exec will sit across a boardroom table, and the Hollywood exec will say, "Your offer sounds OK, but we need to stop this watch party thi…

Still greed.
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