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Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by mseebach »

dfc wrote: post #41
mseebach wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR: Very long and pretty offensive post that boils down to "because the courts aren't stupid and can probably tell the difference and by the way there are some specific legal requirement that when making porn you need to cross-reference IDs and you're probably not doing it".

Pretty offensive? What is it that you find so offensive about the post?

The tone is pretty consistently contemptible towards the hypothetical asker, culminating in calling the asker "dumbass" and "imbicile".

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by spaceboy »

Even though web beacons / trackers like Google Analytics are fairly harmless, I still wouldn't trust them in this app because they often sit close to the main app's code and can be MITM'd to do bad things like send back snippets of a recording, or metadata about a recording like the name of the video file. That is, of course if this app has such beacons. I haven't sat between the traffic of this app (ab)using Burp Suite or Fiddler[2] to give a proper opinion

[1] https://portswigger.net/burp/

[2] http://www.telerik.com/fiddler

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by DannyBee »

hellofunk wrote: post #35
J0-nas wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did you expect?

I expected my colleagues to respect the things I do in private and realize I'm just human. And at the very least, if they were going to publicly respond, I'd have expected them to compliment me instead.

"I expected my colleagues to respect the things I do in private and realize I'm just human."

So basically, you bet that people would overcome millions of years of human psychology?

While I agree with you it would be nice if that happened (really nice!), i wouldn't expect that to happen for a long long time.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by SomeStupidPoint »

Numberwang wrote: post #26
ekidd wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, that's obvious, right? And yet, this solution still provides a dramatic increase in security for its users. Normally, files "exist by default", and will continue to do so forever. You have to take deliberate action to delete them. But here, files are effectively "destroyed by default", and can only be accessed via: 1. Consent of both parties. 2. One of the parties going out of their way to make a deliberate c…

I guess you are right, but I think if this solution became mainstream people would do a backup as soon as they have access. This solution will give some false security and some extra security by luck and antagonist incompetence. It won't make that much of a difference.

Do you also believe Snapchat hasn't made a difference in how nude photos are shared?

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by roywiggins »

mosselman wrote: post #79

I find it odd how people are hating on the idea here, while this could obviously be a lot better than the alternative... you know unencrypted video files that someone can access whenever they want. The concerns I'd have with this myself would be that I'd have to trust the website. As it is I trust my spouse a lot more than some cloud service and I don't expect that to change.

At least if it's unencrypted then there's no sense of security, false or not. You know exactly how vulnerable you are.

With this app, you don't might assume you're less vulnerable than you really are.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by tedmiston »

A multi-person key is interesting.

In practice, however, any system like this, Snapchat, etc is easily defeated with a USB cable and QuickTime's record device screen feature. I suppose it could be useful to others depending on your "threat model", but generally it offers no protection from a savvy computer user after you've unlocked it once.

Edit: Not sure why the downvotes. This is completely correct and you can test it yourself with any iOS app. I've added more explanation to clarify.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by ant6n »

iak8god wrote: post #84
lookACamel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is that during the relationship both parties are at peace so neither party will have any desire to do something underhanded like recording the video from another phone. This app addresses the problem that occurs when the relationship ends on a bad note and one party has to the urge to harm the other through whatever means necessary.

This is pretty naive though. Everyone so far who's ever sent me, er, "home videos" has later decided to stop sending me such content and would probably revoke my access to it if they could. Maybe I'm just a sneaky jerk, but backing up content that I would like to see again seems like something I'd try regardless of how the relationship was at the time. I don't mean anyone harm and I'd not distribute someone's videos…

So let's say you go through the hoops to use this app. Then you'd immediately break that trust, while still in the relationship, by recording the videos?

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by icebraining »

joezydeco wrote: post #82
lookACamel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is that during the relationship both parties are at peace so neither party will have any desire to do something underhanded like recording the video from another phone. This app addresses the problem that occurs when the relationship ends on a bad note and one party has to the urge to harm the other through whatever means necessary.

Because nobody would ever offload the videos before the breakup?

Most encryption systems are vulnerable to rubber-hose cryptanalysis, yet we still use them because they still vastly reduce the chance that your message will be leaked.

Similarly, this app reduces the chances that one of the parties will be victimized by their ex. That's still useful, even though imperfect.

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