How do they ensure that their submitters are being honest?
Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, sure, but really, so what? I understand that we historically have a culture in which salary figures are secret, but that all seems to come from a bunch of social-hierarchy stuff about keeping up appearances and saving face. If someone doesn't care about that then what harm could even potentially come about as a result of sharing useful information with peers?
It could be a problem at companies where salaries are under an NDA. If the companies find out you broke the NDA you could get fired. I'm pretty sure my company has such a clause.
That's my standard answer when a prospective employer asks what I'm making now.
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#123Am I the only one that feels shaky sharing my salary? I work at a start up and if I share my position and company it won't really be anonymous, as I am the only person at the company with that position. I do agree its nice for people to post their salaries so i know if I'm underpaid. But what if I'm overpaid, or at least played more than most at my company? What will that do to people I work with who find or how much…
Just don't fill out the company name field.
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#124How do they ensure that their submitters are being honest?
How could you possibly do this without requiring documents that no one is ever going to give out?
Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, sure, but really, so what? I understand that we historically have a culture in which salary figures are secret, but that all seems to come from a bunch of social-hierarchy stuff about keeping up appearances and saving face. If someone doesn't care about that then what harm could even potentially come about as a result of sharing useful information with peers?
It could be a problem at companies where salaries are under an NDA. If the companies find out you broke the NDA you could get fired. I'm pretty sure my company has such a clause.
At least in germany a nda about your pay in the emoloyment contract is non binding.
Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, sure, but really, so what? I understand that we historically have a culture in which salary figures are secret, but that all seems to come from a bunch of social-hierarchy stuff about keeping up appearances and saving face. If someone doesn't care about that then what harm could even potentially come about as a result of sharing useful information with peers?
It could be a problem at companies where salaries are under an NDA. If the companies find out you broke the NDA you could get fired. I'm pretty sure my company has such a clause.
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Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
#127I'd make this site more focus about apples to apples comparison within the same company. I.e 'Share your salary at X and invite your colleagues to do the same'. So people could go to honestsalary.com/company and collaborate there with the main page showing the aggregate.
And maybe instead of job title use department and 'level' to make it more ambiguous. I.e engineering,marketing,operations or 'associate, sr, manager, director, vp, cto'.
The problem with title is that with small companies title alone isn't ambiguous enough. Yeah yeah I know it's technically illegal for a company to retaliate but that is being a bit naive. Some companies will - the law is pretty toothless here and there are plenty of ways to subtly do it.
Also use HTTPS. For obvious reasons.
Otherwise i'm a fan and I was actually looking for an something similar the other day.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
> identifies as female As a point of clarification, this should be "identifies as a woman". Sex (male/female) is a physical characteristic, gender (man/woman) is a social construct. More info from transman's first link: > Sex is assigned at birth, refers to one’s biological status as either male or female, and is associated primarily with physical attributes such as chromosomes, hormone prevalence, and external and i…
EDIT: The text you quote does not say that man / woman and male / female have different uses. There's nothing to say that male / female only refer to sex not gender. If what you said is true (and it isn't) people would only need two questions on forms: "Are you male or female?" "Are you a man or a woman?" This would make no sense and so we can safely ignore it.
Yes, people do still conflate sex and gender terms. But language is increasingly shifting toward using male/female to describe sex and man/woman to describe gender because it results in greater clarity.
Sex and gender are separate concepts, and having separate terms for each is a net positive for the English language IMO.
Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
#129How do they ensure that their submitters are being honest?
Just like with Glassdoor you're not going to be able to verify. Ideally most people will be truthful and the fakes will be minimal but all it takes is a single 4chan "raid" on a new site to populate it with tons of bullshit making it useless.
Now the site could at least verify email addresses before showing them to ensure it's not a bot and make people less likely to make up random crap. But that's still not verifying the input.
Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
#130I'd make this site more focus about apples to apples comparison within the same company. I.e 'Share your salary at X and invite your colleagues to do the same'. So people could go to honestsalary.com/company and collaborate there with the main page showing the aggregate. And maybe instead of job title use department and 'level' to make it more ambiguous. I.e engineering,marketing,operations or 'associate, sr, manager…
Just to add: You can use https://letsencrypt.org/ for free HTTPS certs.