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Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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It depends on the CAPTCHA, but there's a reason why Apple, Cloudflare, and Google are shifting towards remote attestation for proof-of-humanity. The reCAPTCHA v3 Enterprise version and MtCaptcha cost a whopping 3x as much ($3 per 1000 solves). Seems like they're the best CAPTCHAs to go for.

recaptcha v3 will require the human to have a Google certified android device (i.e. no GrapheneOS or LineageOS etc.) and a dedicated iOS app which leaks device ID and other data. Google will get to know every user browsing the web and link it to a smartphone. Since they’re rolling out government issue ID verification at the OS level, this change will allow Google to identify a random web visitor to a govt ID. https:/…

So at 3x times the monetary rate, Google is literally selling it's customers?!

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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post #98

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More info on how an iOS app can leak device ID? I thought Apple did away with access to device IDs and only provides a per-developer ID.

The "device ID" part is probably false and a red herring. What actually matters is that google can correlate which challenges a given device is solving, so if it's solving 10k challenges per day, it can be marked as being suspicious.

Sounds pretty much like they're identify the device, then. Or is "device id" Apple lingo for a specific tech?

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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No, the system is rigged in a different way. There is an actual data broker industry that's mostly hidden from view; and then there are hundreds upon hundreds of ephemeral "look up your neighbor" websites that you know about and end up submitting opt outs to, only for half of these websites to disappear and a new crop to show up in a year or two.

Weird how with these kinds of discussions new accounts always show up with a wealth of information. Very astroturfed topic readers beware

what do you mean? also your account is 6 months old

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I always get paranoid about these things ever since the Streisand Effect became a thing, I feel like the outcome is you enter a second list and this second list is maybe less friendly as it turns you into an outlier which brings other kinds of problems It feels like the system is rigged and we need a better answer

No, the system is rigged in a different way. There is an actual data broker industry that's mostly hidden from view; and then there are hundreds upon hundreds of ephemeral "look up your neighbor" websites that you know about and end up submitting opt outs to, only for half of these websites to disappear and a new crop to show up in a year or two.

can you share your sources? I'm curious about this

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the system is rigged in a different way. There is an actual data broker industry that's mostly hidden from view; and then there are hundreds upon hundreds of ephemeral "look up your neighbor" websites that you know about and end up submitting opt outs to, only for half of these websites to disappear and a new crop to show up in a year or two.

Weird how with these kinds of discussions new accounts always show up with a wealth of information. Very astroturfed topic readers beware

Yesterday, the comment section on Flock camera vandalism was wild for this reason.

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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post #101

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The "device ID" part is probably false and a red herring. What actually matters is that google can correlate which challenges a given device is solving, so if it's solving 10k challenges per day, it can be marked as being suspicious.

Sounds pretty much like they're identify the device, then. Or is "device id" Apple lingo for a specific tech?

No, on both android and ios device id implies some sort of identifier that's reusable across apps. Otherwise a uuid that you generate and write to storage could qualify as a "device id".

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

recaptcha v3 will require the human to have a Google certified android device (i.e. no GrapheneOS or LineageOS etc.) and a dedicated iOS app which leaks device ID and other data. Google will get to know every user browsing the web and link it to a smartphone. Since they’re rolling out government issue ID verification at the OS level, this change will allow Google to identify a random web visitor to a govt ID. https:/…

So at 3x times the monetary rate, Google is literally selling it's customers?!

>Google is literally selling it's customers?!

You can characterize this commercial arrangement as whatever you want, but not meaningfully different than what they had before, where they were getting users to click boxes and charging businesses per "verification".

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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post #75

At least in California, the DROP form is scheduled to come online this fall.

As someone working in the industry: August 1 is hanging out like the Sword of Damocles for the ~500 registered data brokers in California.

For consumers, it's already available though! You can join 275K of your neighbors and sign up.

Re: Show HN: Auto-identity-remove – Automated data broker opt-out runner for macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the system is rigged in a different way. There is an actual data broker industry that's mostly hidden from view; and then there are hundreds upon hundreds of ephemeral "look up your neighbor" websites that you know about and end up submitting opt outs to, only for half of these websites to disappear and a new crop to show up in a year or two.

Weird how with these kinds of discussions new accounts always show up with a wealth of information. Very astroturfed topic readers beware

Yes, I'm clearly on the payroll of... um... big optout?
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