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Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#111
post #95

Thanks to the HN moderators for re-posting this after I posted this a few days ago. I only notice now that it's on the front page. Happy to answer any questions. Let me tell you, I've really enjoyed having those writers that I like highlighted on this comment thread because it makes it very easy to scan it. I think it's important to remember that this is not about hiding writers you disagree with. It's simply about m…

Is that what it's about?

> identify quality authors and filter out obnoxious commenters

> not about hiding writers you disagree with

> It's also fun to read the writers you disagree with

[But] > to reinforce your opinion of them. [Did you misspeak here?]

> this reduces the time I spent on Hacker News

> find the good stuff based on people you trust

This is very confused.

* Do we want to avoid ideas that we disagree with?

* Do we want to avoid authors we've labelled as annoying? (This is about meta-level bad ideas, about how to interact.)

* Do we want to avoid meta-level ideas that we disagree with?

* What if your friends disagree about who their friends and enemies are?

* What it they don't disagree, isn't that creepy? Echo chamber much?

* Is it right to pre-empt your own interest by labelling material before reading it? I don't know!

Seems to me that rational pre-filtering should be along subtle, personal, ever-changing lines, and you should constantly be deciding on the spot based on complex information including your current mood and dyspepsia. How should interest work? You may start reading a thing and decide "this is not for me" (or "this is a troll or a bot"). Or with a tool like this one you may carry out the same process faster, and more crudely, using less information and less serendipity. So you're encouraging people to be in a rush and make more superficial choices instead of mining for the gold. On the other hand, maybe they are in a rush and need to be like that.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#112
post #95

Thanks to the HN moderators for re-posting this after I posted this a few days ago. I only notice now that it's on the front page. Happy to answer any questions. Let me tell you, I've really enjoyed having those writers that I like highlighted on this comment thread because it makes it very easy to scan it. I think it's important to remember that this is not about hiding writers you disagree with. It's simply about m…

Is that what it's about? > identify quality authors and filter out obnoxious commenters > not about hiding writers you disagree with > It's also fun to read the writers you disagree with [But] > to reinforce your opinion of them. [Did you misspeak here?] > this reduces the time I spent on Hacker News > find the good stuff based on people you trust This is very confused. * Do we want to avoid ideas that we disagree wi…

You don't avoid anything, this simply helps highlight commenters in a long thread.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you gain from this?

I mean the entire extension is about this, but I can quickly scan this thread (or others) and spot my favored commenters.

Yes, and you just found that you "favor" WorldMaker, and therefore ... read the suggestion "Follow/Distance?" more eagerly?

If that suggestion (which I suppose you'll ignore anyway, but maybe it inspires some other thought in you) came from a foe, then ... you'd be directed away from paying attention to it? Because you've incontinently flipped a colored orb at some point in the past, and now you're going to use that statistical information to direct you to where the most inspiring ideas mostly are? I see.

But maybe this is not very high quality information in the first place (the information that you provide for yourself by flicking an orb)?

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that what it's about? > identify quality authors and filter out obnoxious commenters > not about hiding writers you disagree with > It's also fun to read the writers you disagree with [But] > to reinforce your opinion of them. [Did you misspeak here?] > this reduces the time I spent on Hacker News > find the good stuff based on people you trust This is very confused. * Do we want to avoid ideas that we disagree wi…

You don't avoid anything, this simply helps highlight commenters in a long thread.

So that you can not avoid the ones you don't like, huh.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#115
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. Why engage with ideas on the merits when you can color (literally) your own opinion of them before even reading. I guess if you just prefer wearing horse blinders?

There's nothing about this that's horse blinders. It's literally a way to highlight riders that you both agree and disagree with. It actually makes it more likely that you're going to engage with the ones you disagree with, because now they have a red orb.

Might as well just have one ambiguous orb, then.

For a further improvement, let the extension set some orbs automatically at random, to encourage discoveries. Then upgrade this to all the orbs.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#119

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> Version two: hide foes? That's a good idea. Here's my bad idea: the extension auto downvotes foes and auto upvotes friends. :)

automations get your account in trouble, it's against the rules

It already happens today

Re: Show HN: Hacker Smacker – Spot great (and terrible) HN commenters at a glance

#120

Nice, so it shows green/white/red badge above commentors. I would suggest HN team to integrate this feature. It looks really cool.

HN was never the place to add trendy, unnecessary "features" and I doubt there would be a point in adding this one, considering how it seemingly goes against the entire ethos of the community: engaging with the substance of what the people are saying.
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