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Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by m_km »

czhu12 wrote: post #84
pedalpete wrote: post #5

I'm with you on the frustration with Slack and every month when I see our bill I consider forcing the company to change. My co-founder and I tried moving to Google Chat. We already pay for workspace so why not. What kept us on slack is the external partners who are on slack. This is a bigger deal than you might think. Google chat doesn't allow you to add external members unless they were added at the creation of the…

I’m very puzzled by Google chat to be honest. It’s a massive missing piece in the Google workspace toolchest. Teams is the central place for companies on Microsoft, and arguably the most sticky part of the MS cloud productivity stack. So it can’t be lost on Google how important it is to have something here. Google slides, docs, sheets are fantastic products, but Google chat is so clunky and awkward that it seems hard…

And Google Chat does not have a native Desktop app. I guess they're the only chat app that don't.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by stugots2 »

yadavrh wrote: post #93
moomoo11 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t read the full site but it seems they’re not really going for those users? Anyone who has dozens of custom workflows and apps in their Slack is probably spending 10s of thousands of dollars on Slack. It is probably vital to their business. This seems like it’s for small teams (like 3-5 people even, collaborating daily) who get rekt really fast before they’re forced to spend $60 a month.

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i have a side gig with 3 other people, we use slack chat for daily coms and webhooks. we meet weekly over discord becuase huddles are a paid feature, are you planning on implemening voip?

after 4 years we're almost at the point where i feel its worth spending $ for different types of convinient features.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by usefulposter »

yadavrh wrote: post #99
TkTech wrote: post #89

I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…

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Please respect the HN community and kindly disclose when you are using an LLM to respond to user feedback.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by schappim »

BozeWolf wrote: post #92
TkTech wrote: post #89

I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…

I was about to ask the same thing. I saw mentioning of gdpr, feels like at least some europeans are involved. However: I don’t want to have my data in the US for at least 3 years. For businesses outside the US: they simply cannot have their data in US anymore. Build european/non-us would be a great argument to use this product.

@dang the founder/op’s responses seem to be getting flagged erroneously

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by normie3000 »

schappim wrote: post #115
BozeWolf wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to ask the same thing. I saw mentioning of gdpr, feels like at least some europeans are involved. However: I don’t want to have my data in the US for at least 3 years. For businesses outside the US: they simply cannot have their data in US anymore. Build european/non-us would be a great argument to use this product.

@dang the founder/op’s responses seem to be getting flagged erroneously

From the comments it looks like people are flagging them as AI content.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by wooger »

nottorp wrote: post #95
dangus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.

... and that's how browser monopolies are formed. Your "something better" is certainly Chrome. But that's irellevant because the likes of teams and google chat are made for management and at best sales, while slack is made for engineers.

Weird, there are an awful lot of engineers (last 3 SaaS companies I worked for) that are all Teams.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Post by ted_dunning »

tormeh wrote: post #85
czhu12 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m very puzzled by Google chat to be honest. It’s a massive missing piece in the Google workspace toolchest. Teams is the central place for companies on Microsoft, and arguably the most sticky part of the MS cloud productivity stack. So it can’t be lost on Google how important it is to have something here. Google slides, docs, sheets are fantastic products, but Google chat is so clunky and awkward that it seems hard…

Really? Teams is the most sticky? Teams sucks. Excel and PowerPoint are the most sticky parts, and Teams just comes bundled with those.

Yes in some ways. Teams being bundled means that Slack and other messaging apps have to justify against a sunk-cost solution.

That makes teams very sticky.

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