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It's the email/username harvesting that you mean right? Or do people also have something against anonymised product analytics?

Yes to both.

how do you build a product without analytics? how do you measure the success and failure of every change?

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#112

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Yes to both.

how do you build a product without analytics? how do you measure the success and failure of every change?

Many users tend to be pretty vocal when changes break things they like, you don't need to spy on them for that. Mail readers > analytics frameworks.

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#113

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how do you build a product without analytics? how do you measure the success and failure of every change?

Many users tend to be pretty vocal when changes break things they like, you don't need to spy on them for that. Mail readers > analytics frameworks.

"not breaking things they like" is a very low bar for building a great product

To be honest building things this way seems like such a competitive disadvantage I don't see how it could ever work at scale. Certainly all the big players are using them. If we shake our heads at the little players doing the same, we're just going to widen the moat

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#114
post #70

If I multiply my 100x productivity gains from using AI with your 10x increase what am I supposed to do with all that free time?

Maybe Tony can inspire you? ( ◠ ‿ ・ ) — https://youtube.com/shorts/YBAcvRV7VSM?si=jp2hZvFIVo-vSdu6

Lol - nice find

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#115

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Yes to both.

how do you build a product without analytics? how do you measure the success and failure of every change?

You know that generations of engineers built and sold products without spying on their users.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Hmm, analytics appear to default to enabled: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... It is harvesting email addresses and github usernames: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... Then it seems to track every time you start/finish/merge/attempt a task, and every time you run a dev server. Including what executors you are using (I think this means "claude code" or the li…

could you point me to what jurisdictions require analytics opt in esp for open source devtools? thats not actually something ive seen as a legal requirement, more a community preference. eg ok we all know about EU website cookie banners, but i am more ignorant about devtools/clis sending back telemetry. any actual laws cited here would update me significatnly

GDPR is not about cookies but about privacy in general. It’s an easy read, and yes, it applies to software and telemetry as much as it applies to websites and cookies, and it applies to anyone providing services and tools to Europeans.

"Personal data is information that relates to an identified or identifiable individual. If you cannot directly identify an individual from that information, then you need to consider whether the individual is still identifiable. You should take into account the information you are processing together with all the means reasonably likely to be used by either you or any other person to identify that individual."

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#117

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Many users tend to be pretty vocal when changes break things they like, you don't need to spy on them for that. Mail readers > analytics frameworks.

"not breaking things they like" is a very low bar for building a great product To be honest building things this way seems like such a competitive disadvantage I don't see how it could ever work at scale. Certainly all the big players are using them. If we shake our heads at the little players doing the same, we're just going to widen the moat

Spying on your users does not give better feedback than simply asking your users (surveys, focus groups) and responding to the considered comments you receive. Spying and trying to infer intent is such a low bar to improve upon.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"not breaking things they like" is a very low bar for building a great product To be honest building things this way seems like such a competitive disadvantage I don't see how it could ever work at scale. Certainly all the big players are using them. If we shake our heads at the little players doing the same, we're just going to widen the moat

Spying on your users does not give better feedback than simply asking your users (surveys, focus groups) and responding to the considered comments you receive. Spying and trying to infer intent is such a low bar to improve upon.

> Spying on your users does not give better feedback than simply asking your users

If that's true, there are many companies paying thousands -hundreds of thousands unnecessarily. Why are they choosing to throw away their money?

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"not breaking things they like" is a very low bar for building a great product To be honest building things this way seems like such a competitive disadvantage I don't see how it could ever work at scale. Certainly all the big players are using them. If we shake our heads at the little players doing the same, we're just going to widen the moat

Spying on your users does not give better feedback than simply asking your users (surveys, focus groups) and responding to the considered comments you receive. Spying and trying to infer intent is such a low bar to improve upon.

It is not an either or. Surveys are almost always ignored. Micro improvements cannot be done with just surveys and asking users. Often users do not know how to describe a problem. Product analytics, if anonymized with opt-out gives a pretty good picture of intent, especially in B2B software.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spying on your users does not give better feedback than simply asking your users (surveys, focus groups) and responding to the considered comments you receive. Spying and trying to infer intent is such a low bar to improve upon.

It is not an either or. Surveys are almost always ignored. Micro improvements cannot be done with just surveys and asking users. Often users do not know how to describe a problem. Product analytics, if anonymized with opt-out gives a pretty good picture of intent, especially in B2B software.

Analytics cannot be anonymized.
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