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Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#111

Fun fact: clippy came from Microsoft Bob, which Melinda Gates was the marketing manager for. I have often wondered what role their relationship played in keeping Clippy around. And now I wonder if Clippy makes Bill Gates sad since the divorce.

>And now I wonder if Clippy makes Bill Gates sad since the divorce

I doubt he thinks about clippy much at all.

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#112

Fun fact: clippy came from Microsoft Bob, which Melinda Gates was the marketing manager for. I have often wondered what role their relationship played in keeping Clippy around. And now I wonder if Clippy makes Bill Gates sad since the divorce.

>And now I wonder if Clippy makes Bill Gates sad since the divorce I doubt he thinks about clippy much at all.

> I doubt he thinks about clippy much at all

Guys I think I found Bill’s HN handle

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#113

I'm all for these prepackaged local-only AI projects. Much more my speed than corporate cloud services. Real shame this one went down the path of choosing an embodiment that makes me want to shoot holes in my screen. It's even worse than those pixel art cats that chase my cursor on certain blogs. I miss plenty of things about the 90s, but I seriously doubt I'll live long enough to forget how much Clippy is not one of…

is it possible you're not the target audience?

Which part of my original comment made that a question worth asking? Thought I had already expressed that fairly clearly.

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#116

I'm all for these prepackaged local-only AI projects. Much more my speed than corporate cloud services. Real shame this one went down the path of choosing an embodiment that makes me want to shoot holes in my screen. It's even worse than those pixel art cats that chase my cursor on certain blogs. I miss plenty of things about the 90s, but I seriously doubt I'll live long enough to forget how much Clippy is not one of…

> I'd rather be hunted by a Boston Dynamics robot than have to face Clippy on my screen every day.

This is the first AI thing I've actually bothered to install on my computer. Until today, despite being a technologist, I've only played with AIs via browser. I think AIs are interesting and can be useful but, having retired early, I'm not writing code or work emails so there hasn't been any compelling need.

I've thought about installing a local LLM to just play around with, but I have a long list of other things to play with (pinball machines, music making, photography, vintage video games) and AI just never got to the top of the list. I think I was also resistant because chat interfaces tend to be so annoying. I hate it when they LARP being a human. Giving a chat agent a retro 90s UX that's legendary for being annoying and clueless just seems so... on message, I thought "Yeah, I can probably not hate using this..."

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#117
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IIRC correctly, Clippy’s most famous feature was interrupting you to offer advice. The advice was usually basic/useless/annoying, hence Clippy’s reputation, but a powerful LLM could actually make the original concept work. It would not be simply a chatbot that responds to text, but rather would observe your screen, understand it through a vision model, and give appropriate advice. Things like “did you know there’s an…

We are probably getting closer to that with the newer multimodal LLMs, but you'd almost need to take a screenshot on intervals fed directly to the LLM to provide a sort of chronological context to help it understand what the user is trying to do and gauge the users intentions. As you say though, I don't know how many people would be comfortable having screenshots of their computer sent arbitrarily to a non-local LLM.

> I don't know how many people would be comfortable having screenshots of their computer sent arbitrarily to a non-local LLM

shudders.

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#118

Great idea! I've been humorously referring to chat agents as next gen Clippy because of their chipper, talky default personas which I find insufferably annoying. I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Really a huge miss on their part because I hate the overbearingly intrusive way they keep forcing it into their OS, apps and my fucking laptop keyboard. If they at le…

There's a lot of missed opportunities out there. For example, AskJeeves is still just a vanilla search engine (Google front-end).

That kind of sucks, because there's AI LLM's just about everywhere else now. Even those customer service "live chat" windows are typically AI first. What are Ask Jeeves doing?

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

#120

Fun fact: the newest generation (such as myself, a 23 year old programmer) were actually not even alive when Clippy existed. I only know of it from an Office reference. One day I will have something like that -- maybe MSN or internet explorer?

It's not quite that bad! The last version of Office released with Clippy was in May 2003! So you would have been born, if only just.
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