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Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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OP, you're selling your tool to the wrong people. HN is not the crowd. This is for core-engineers who want to get value out of coding. Find people who pay the $1000/yr to use 1 tool in Matlab, and start pulling them away.

Please don't try and box the user base of a web community. It's exclusive rather than inclusive. You have no idea who is reading these pages.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#112

I would've enjoyed trying this out but the subscription fee is an immediate turn off. My biggest concern with this project is expertise and potential burn-out. There's a lot of writing from scratch that really begs to go through the gauntlet of open source.

Same for me, I would prefer a one off fee, or a subset of features for free. I like owning my tools though.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#114
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the OP, but I have a subscription to PyCharm through work and still think it's inferior to VSCode. And I don't love vscode... In general, subscriptions are a high bar for me. You typically pay for them year after year but see minimal improvements. Back when I was doing Java development, I paid for my own copy of Idea just to get to use something good. But I don't think I would do that for a subscription.

> I have a subscription to PyCharm through work and still think it's inferior to VSCode I'm trying to figure out how anyone could think that. Every time I switch to VS Code I feel hamstrung. What do you find to be inferior?

While I also felt limited in vscode compared to pycharm, it definitely feels more polished. I've had some bugs in pycharm for years with no progress on their issue tracker, and new features feel a bit slopilly implemented.

Also the built-in type checker is just bad

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#115

If you want this in Clojure, check out Clerk. [0] As a bonus, you can continue to use whatever IDE you already use. [0] https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk

well, I didn't know I could use clerk with my IDE. Thanks for pointing that out!

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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I am a robotics engineer/scientist and I do shit ton of visualization of all kind of high-fidelity/high-rate data, often in a streaming setting - time series at a few thousand Hz, RGB/depth images from multiple cameras, debugging my models by visualizing many layer outputs, every augmentation, etc. For a long time, I had my own observability suite - a messy library of python scripts that I use for visualizing data. I…

Rerun is exactly what we have been looking for years. A game engine for the visualisation of multidimensional data without all the game 3D knowledge. I have so many questions!

(Can I access a mmap file, display it in real time with rerun and save a history at the same time?)

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> currently on PyCharm. ... Cons: Subscription business model. ... Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me. I'm curious to understand this better (as a fan of JetBrains): do you currently use PyCharm Community or does the JetBrains model not count as a subscription for you?

Chiming in here, Jetbrains is a subscription model, but with a very important qualifier in the form of a perpetual fallback license once you stop paying. It's an important distinction, and I wish more businesses would follow this model.

> perpetual fallback license

Are you sure this isn't what Scripton is offering? From the pricing page:

> All updates included while subscription is active

That doesn't preclude the idea that what stops when your subscription ends is the updates, not use at all. But I genuinely don't know either way.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chiming in here, Jetbrains is a subscription model, but with a very important qualifier in the form of a perpetual fallback license once you stop paying. It's an important distinction, and I wish more businesses would follow this model.

> perpetual fallback license Are you sure this isn't what Scripton is offering? From the pricing page: > All updates included while subscription is active That doesn't preclude the idea that what stops when your subscription ends is the updates, not use at all. But I genuinely don't know either way.

Couple things.

1. Perpetual fallback licenses on SaaS products are (unfortunately) not terribly common - so if it's not explicitly stated then you can bet your bottom dollar that it's highly unlikely.

2. From the dev themselves in another part of this post, "The plan for now is just subscriptions. However, I would like to eventually have something like Jetbrains' "perpetual fallback license" where you can keep using up to a particular version after, say, a year of subscription".

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