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Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by allg12 »

oregoncurtis wrote: post #92
jameal wrote: post #26

Looks interesting! Unfortunately doesn't seem to let me add more than one point on my route. In the console I see `Error fetching route from Graphhopper Error: Network response was not ok` I tried a couple times and got this in the U.S. In Europe I picked a couple random points and it worked fine.

I'm getting the same, it's a 400 response.

So far, I've only generated the graph for Europe(using Graphhopper). Even just Europe required 128GB of RAM and around 10 hours of computation time (the entire planet would likely need 384GB of RAM). I plan to add North America on a separate Docker container soon though. I started with Europe because I’m familiar with some of the bike trails here, which makes it easier for me to check if the routing makes sense.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by carlosjobim »

Moru wrote: post #95
carlosjobim wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$10 per month is the minimum price that you should use for any software or digital product. People who are unwilling to pay $10 per month are also unwilling to pay $5 per month or $1 per month – regardless of how much value they get from the product. Ten dollars is the bottom. Why should it be a subscription instead of a pay-once app? Maps have to update as the real world updates, and probably they have other feature…

$10 per month might be the minimum price that is acceptable in US. This looks very different depending on your salary and if you can choose not to pay tax for health care and such. Have seen cases where different prices for different areas in the world when I was younger, not sure how that looks now. I'm paying for $1 and $5 subscriptions (ko-fi) for things I like and use. But $10 is getting too high for a thing even…

You are the exception. Very few people who wouldn't pay $10 would pay $5 or $1, no matter which region. If your salary level makes $10 an important amount of money, then priorities should be food, shelter and such. And if you need five months to save up for bike parts, then you have to urgently try to fix your economic situation, before you put your own health and future at risk.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by allg12 »

clementmas wrote: post #76
cullenking wrote: post #69

Nice work! I run ridewithgps.com and am responsible for all our mapping and routing. If you ever want to pick my brain about anything related to bike software, and of course grapphopper / vector tiles, feel free to reach out, email is in my profile. I'm actually about to dive into fixing up some custom graphhopper routing profiles today for some new route planner updates we are about to release!

It’s nice to see so many founders here. I run travelmap.net and I can also help out with self-hosting custom map tiles or tracing itineraries on Mapbox/Maplibre maps.

Thank you, appreciate it! Travelmap looks awesome—I love the idea. I will definitely try it out on my next trip.

This morning, I picked up an affordable m920q with 64GB of RAM and I’m planning to use it for hosting GH and maybe vector tiles too. If I run into any issues I can’t figure out quickly I’ll reach out but I don’t want to bug you with basic questions.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by mvdtnz »

allg12 wrote: post #111
oregoncurtis wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting the same, it's a 400 response.

So far, I've only generated the graph for Europe(using Graphhopper). Even just Europe required 128GB of RAM and around 10 hours of computation time (the entire planet would likely need 384GB of RAM). I plan to add North America on a separate Docker container soon though. I started with Europe because I’m familiar with some of the bike trails here, which makes it easier for me to check if the routing makes sense.

You should at least add some kind of error handling so I'm not sitting there like a dope clicking over and over with no result.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by karussell »

allg12 wrote: post #111
oregoncurtis wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting the same, it's a 400 response.

So far, I've only generated the graph for Europe(using Graphhopper). Even just Europe required 128GB of RAM and around 10 hours of computation time (the entire planet would likely need 384GB of RAM). I plan to add North America on a separate Docker container soon though. I started with Europe because I’m familiar with some of the bike trails here, which makes it easier for me to check if the routing makes sense.

> the entire planet would likely need 384GB of RAM

Unlikely. Even with turn costs enabled 256GB (or less) are sufficient. You could also try to disable CH as for bike often no long routes are required (you could disable them). Here we have written down a few more details: https://www.graphhopper.com/blog/2022/06/27/host-your-own-wo...

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by cullenking »

allg12 wrote: post #113
clementmas wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s nice to see so many founders here. I run travelmap.net and I can also help out with self-hosting custom map tiles or tracing itineraries on Mapbox/Maplibre maps.

Thank you, appreciate it! Travelmap looks awesome—I love the idea. I will definitely try it out on my next trip. This morning, I picked up an affordable m920q with 64GB of RAM and I’m planning to use it for hosting GH and maybe vector tiles too. If I run into any issues I can’t figure out quickly I’ll reach out but I don’t want to bug you with basic questions.

I have a stack of about 10 older dual xeon based supermicro 1u machines with 512gb of ram....if you are in the oregon area you can have any number of them for free! infini-ram makes life easier when dealing with OSM data.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by antasvara »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #56
verelo wrote: post #23

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Interesting assumption. My mind goes to to a) Most people are mobile first and b) In this category of app, i imagine people want the route with them on their phone as they bike (as they're probably unfamiliar with the route, hence the need to plan it) Cool idea, i'd love to try it but honestly i'd love it on my phone for the aforementioned reasons! --- Edit: Some follow up remarks (From Chrome on a Mac) 1. I found it…

>a) Most people are mobile first I couldn't imagine trying to build a complex route on a tiny screen with a crappy phone UI. I am starting to feel like an old man yelling at clouds here. Why in the hell wouldn't you prefer to use a nice monitor with a mouse for a complex task like this?

Obviously not a representative sample, but I'd say ~25% of the people I know have a monitor and mouse, and the majority of that group only use it for work.

Thia isn't to say you're wrong. I much prefer my monitor and mouse for anything of reasonable complexity. But I increasingly find myself in the minority in that regard among people I know. Hell, I even find myself in the minority for using a laptop for tasks sometimes.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by 0l »

nodehopper42 wrote: post #6

Are you aware of "brouter"? Depending on the routing rules (upper left selector) you can choose multiple trail preferences. https://brouter.de/essbee/

That link seems to be for an older version from 2021, the latest version is here: https://brouter.de/brouter-web

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by dkga »

Exciting! For me would be a nice complement or competition to, say, Komoot.

Constructive feedback: at least on safari, it was not as smooth to navigate as other map apps, and also a bit cumbersome to add waypoints, etc.

A small but important thing - there is a typo in the “activity” spelling.

Hope that helps, and best of luck with it!

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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Post by cfcfcf »

allg12 wrote: post #111
oregoncurtis wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting the same, it's a 400 response.

So far, I've only generated the graph for Europe(using Graphhopper). Even just Europe required 128GB of RAM and around 10 hours of computation time (the entire planet would likely need 384GB of RAM). I plan to add North America on a separate Docker container soon though. I started with Europe because I’m familiar with some of the bike trails here, which makes it easier for me to check if the routing makes sense.

Cool project, best of luck! Agree with the other commenter that some kind of error handling or warning re: outside-of-EU availability.
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