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Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by Filligree »

aspenmayer wrote: post #102
Filligree wrote: post #99

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I do, but it’s obscure fanfiction. Admittedly with heavy computer science and AI inspirations, so maybe you’d find it interesting regardless? It’s over here: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/shards-of-a-br...

I read the prologue and it seems neat! I'm not familiar with the fanfiction scene really, or the works yours is based on. How did the voting work? I like the pictures, and I can see how using AI would help a lot with that, especially in the context of existing characters, as matching styles and designs is something that AI is likely well-suited to do. I read a bit about Shugo Chara to see what it's about, and it seem…

The voting is pretty much as shown. People vote on what the protagonist (usually Amu) tries to do, I decide what actually happens. It's a kind of communal roleplaying game; a quest, in SV parlance.

I've worked on other stories, but this is the only one right now. As to source material, knowing it would be beneficial, but it's all new to the protagonists and the only one I'd say is a must-have is Shugo Chara. Though not even that; several players did not know anything about Amu in advance. You'll be a little lost, but the wiki entry will suffice for giving you the basic idea. The story's set post-canon, with some divergences, so it starts off by trying to describe the current situation.

And anime... Magilumiere is great. Give it a try.

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by MrLeap »

enjeyw wrote: post #68
MrLeap wrote: post #58

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yeah yeah yeah, do all these things, and afterwards, look at 2d interpolation methods that don't require AI for your inbetweens. There's some real fast kernel math that can lerp from one blob to another at 8 billion fps.

I think you’re getting downvoted because “yeah yeah yeah” is normally a sign that someone is sarcastically dismissing an idea, but the rest of your comment suggests you’re not at all - linerp is a great idea!

It was a sincere triple yeah, born of excitement.

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

xlii wrote: post #49

> But art is mostly about surfacing the inner world, and only in part about skill. I always thought that art is all about emotions, both preserving and creating them. That’s why I find a banana on the wall art, popular music is still art. (Might be school influence but I also tend to ask myself „why”) This invention is definitely work of art, but its output - in my eyes - not. It’s like a cloud. It can make different…

Art is something that grabs you and is also unique in the way it presents the subject. Also, there has to be skill involved, otherwise the whole thing goes up in smoke if it feels cheap or superficial.

A banana on the wall is not art, because it involves an everyday object in an everyday setting.

You might feel it's art, but if that's the case, then you haven't exposed yourself to true art enough to have a pool of experience or only seen so far superficial examples.

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by skeaker »

xlii wrote: post #49

> But art is mostly about surfacing the inner world, and only in part about skill. I always thought that art is all about emotions, both preserving and creating them. That’s why I find a banana on the wall art, popular music is still art. (Might be school influence but I also tend to ask myself „why”) This invention is definitely work of art, but its output - in my eyes - not. It’s like a cloud. It can make different…

> I always thought that art is all about emotions, both preserving and creating them.

Is that not what was meant by "surfacing the inner world?"

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by yboris »

MrLeap wrote: post #112
enjeyw wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you’re getting downvoted because “yeah yeah yeah” is normally a sign that someone is sarcastically dismissing an idea, but the rest of your comment suggests you’re not at all - linerp is a great idea!

It was a sincere triple yeah, born of excitement.

Makes sense, consider adding a `!` for clarity at the end next time ;)

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by pogue »

I'd love to know the cost of all the materials used in the project and how much time it took you to assemble everything (I didn't see it in the article unless I missed it)

This would definitely be a very cool installation piece for a house or commercial property for people to gather around and talk about!

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by aspenmayer »

Filligree wrote: post #111
aspenmayer wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the prologue and it seems neat! I'm not familiar with the fanfiction scene really, or the works yours is based on. How did the voting work? I like the pictures, and I can see how using AI would help a lot with that, especially in the context of existing characters, as matching styles and designs is something that AI is likely well-suited to do. I read a bit about Shugo Chara to see what it's about, and it seem…

The voting is pretty much as shown. People vote on what the protagonist (usually Amu) tries to do, I decide what actually happens. It's a kind of communal roleplaying game; a quest, in SV parlance. I've worked on other stories, but this is the only one right now. As to source material, knowing it would be beneficial, but it's all new to the protagonists and the only one I'd say is a must-have is Shugo Chara. Though n…

> The voting is pretty much as shown. People vote on what the protagonist (usually Amu) tries to do, I decide what actually happens. It's a kind of communal roleplaying game; a quest, in SV parlance.

That's pretty cool! At first when I saw the boon/bane thing, I thought you were writing one of those RPG style choose your own adventure gamebooks I remember reading in the 90s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebook

I wasn't disappointed, I just got my hopes up a bit. Once I figured out a bit more about the quest and how it worked, I didn't even look at the comments or votes, just went right to the reader mode.

Have you played any visual novel games or interactive fiction? I think you would be good at making one!

As for that anime, it seems neat from what I've read. I see that it's on Amazon Prime and also seems to have some fansubs maybe? How should I experience it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magilumiere_Co._Ltd.

https://anidb.net/anime/18292

As for myself, I just started watching the new 3D/CGI Gundam anime on Netflix, and it's pretty well done. I think they're using Unreal Engine to animate it, and the production values on it are really quite high, though I know 3D/CGI anime are controversial in the anime fandom, to say the least. I'm a Gundam fan though, and I like what they've done with the opportunity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam:_Requiem_for_Vengeance

https://anidb.net/anime/18096

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by tough »

happymellon wrote: post #91
flir wrote: post #85

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If I had to drag myself across a desert in order to press that Bing button, would it be art then? (I think, in that example, the act of pressing the button might be the art - a performance).

Which aligns with this piece in the story. Sticking a webcam shot through an AI filter is a pretty low bar. What makes it art that anyone other than the creator would care about is the real-time rendering. Thats the art that people are interested in discussing. People do all sorts of walks as art. Whether thats Drag or a parade where the art is to make the walk interesting, or walking through the desert, laying on a…

shl0ms exploded a lambo to pieces and sold those as NFT's

crypto-art is art too

a car can be art

ceci n'est pas une pipe

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

bambax wrote: post #78
stefs wrote: post #64

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that's a good idea but something completely different than OP wanted to accomplish. i remember that this has been done already as an art installation in public places so people could see - and interact - with others from around the world. edit: like this here - https://www.inavateonthenet.net/news/article/vc-art-installa...

> an art installation in public places so people could see - and interact - with others from around the world Sure, and it wasn't long before this happened: > It took less than a week for people eager to share their ‘assets’ with the world to shut down the visual portals set up between the cities of Dublin and New York on 8 May. Although the project was aimed at bringing people together and connecting cultures, a few…

We're getting quite good at nudie filters. Can we not just black out the goods or the whole screen if they're detected?

Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

stefs wrote: post #64
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #30

I think this would be cooler if the camera was somewhere different than the frame. Looking at an artistic mirror seems a little boring. Maybe make a 2nd one, and put it in someone else's house, and then feed the camera from one into the other. So you can look at the 'reflection' of someone else and have these little moments where you're both looking at the picture at the same time. Heck, make many so you never know w…

that's a good idea but something completely different than OP wanted to accomplish. i remember that this has been done already as an art installation in public places so people could see - and interact - with others from around the world. edit: like this here - https://www.inavateonthenet.net/news/article/vc-art-installa...

That's pretty cool!
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