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Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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well it'd wouldnt feel very special if everyone had big cursors

It was the small, standard 24px Windows 7 cursor. I was just put off by how I immediately ran into a paid feature within 2 minutes of signing up.

well that means it wouldnt fit even if you were a paid user...

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #65

> Nekoweb is a free static website hosting service, created in 2024 by a group of coders, programmers and artists, passionate for the old web and personal websites. > Join us on our discord to chat with the community and the developers! Gating discussion of the open web in a proprietary service is an interesting decision. Shows that we're still far too reliant on closed protocols for even smaller nontrivial tasks lik…

Haha I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed the irony. It really devalues the whole thing. The next phase in online consumer culture will certainly be the commodification of the old web: reduced to a performative aesthetic, divorced from its original substance.

You'd be lucky if that's the next phase, more likely it's just more Twitters and Facebooks.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #77

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By your reasoning, any backend that’s not accessible directly by the user is proprietary. HN would then also be proprietary, because it relies on a third party (HN) and uses a nonstandard closed protocol (this comment section). Any website that stores data and exposes it via their own UI is proprietary (I leave this vague on purpose, as it is up to interpretation). Discord can be run in the browser and is accessible…

> By your reasoning, any backend that’s not accessible directly by the user is proprietary I've never said such thing. It doesn't matter if you can access things directly: proprietary means it's not FOSS, that's it. > Discord can be run in the browser and is accessible via APIs. I think it’s as open as any other web app by a company that has a commercial interest You need an account to browse Discord, which they can…

Kinda weird to start talking FOSS when the website itself never ever claimed to have anything to do with FOSS.

What does search engines indexability have to do with FOSS? There's no shortage of old school forums locked behind membership system, not indexable by any search engines.

Also Discord is an instant messaging software and not "web". It just happens to have a web frontend. It's OK to be nostalgic of the old web but not the old instant messaging softwares.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #90
post #21

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If Neocities captured the Geocities / Angelfire vibes of 1995 - 2001, then Nekoweb captures the budding anime / early Millennial vibe of 2000 - 2006. This was right around the time that Xanga, LiveJournal, and the rest started peeling apart the indie web. And by the time Facebook started growing, it was game over.

It feels harder every day to not despise the march of technological progress. There are so many eras of computing and internet that I would've loved to see elongated by 10+ years. Then, at least, we would've had more time to get tired of them. Instead, it feels like we're stuck wondering what we lost, in what feels like a very boring and much less fulfilling internet full of SPAM, bots, manipulation, endless pointles…

This is a major depressive thought of mine; that computers and the internet started as this wild west in which capitalism didn't have a hold, because information that can be infinitely copied cannot have value, but capitalism being extremely adaptive at infecting everything and anything turned it into bland corporate soup, and will continue to do so until every personal terminal is a dumb remote access screen that streams rendered frames from The Cloud and it won't even be a general-purpose computer anymore, much less be capable of running what you want.

Today I'm 25, which puts me at older gen Z, younger millennial, which should have given me the experiences of the time when I was a teenager or kid, but by some cruel twist of fate, I keep discovering things from that time that I wasn't aware of that I still think are incredible as concepts, but make no sense in the modern world beyond being toys.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #94

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We have conventions and protocols for dealing with text before - discord is some platform it will bring a whole bunch of new conventions and protocols - needlessly complicated and just a waste of human energy and time - but you know - maximize "engagement" or what have you for your KPI metrics - it's like selling water in bottles to people with easy access to drinking water.

This reads like you're part of the salty thugs that killed IRC to begin with. Offer zero help because you built some mythos about being self-taught and think everyone else should suffer the same, ejaculating "RTFM!" every chance you get, your biggest gripe ultimately distilling down to whining about change, an inevitable outcome of progress that you spite for the simple reason that you liked how "the way things were"…

Why are you seething this hard over some dude preferring one chat platform over another?

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #5

Like neocities? Whats the difference?

It is pretty similar to Neocities. A little bit of differences are: - you can style your site box for discovery page - no limit for file types and some paid plan differences: - ftp support - up to 5 custom domains - cheaper (you can get 1 custom domain for $1 or 5 and all perks for $3 vs neocities' $5)

Tangible related, but are you hosting your website on both Neocities and Nekoweb or just one of them? Because I see your profile both places.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #117
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is pretty similar to Neocities. A little bit of differences are: - you can style your site box for discovery page - no limit for file types and some paid plan differences: - ftp support - up to 5 custom domains - cheaper (you can get 1 custom domain for $1 or 5 and all perks for $3 vs neocities' $5)

Tangible related, but are you hosting your website on both Neocities and Nekoweb or just one of them? Because I see your profile both places.

neither lol, they're both redirects to my server

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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post #90
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Neocities captured the Geocities / Angelfire vibes of 1995 - 2001, then Nekoweb captures the budding anime / early Millennial vibe of 2000 - 2006. This was right around the time that Xanga, LiveJournal, and the rest started peeling apart the indie web. And by the time Facebook started growing, it was game over.

It feels harder every day to not despise the march of technological progress. There are so many eras of computing and internet that I would've loved to see elongated by 10+ years. Then, at least, we would've had more time to get tired of them. Instead, it feels like we're stuck wondering what we lost, in what feels like a very boring and much less fulfilling internet full of SPAM, bots, manipulation, endless pointles…

> Software has stagnated

Stagnated? It's going rapidly backwards.

Modern software development is such dogshit, my 2008 Mac Pro that can encode MP3s at 80x can't even run a damn music player anymore.

The player doesn't do anything new, of course. It was just built in a ridiculous fashion by developers who prioritise their own convenience over everything else.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

#120
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels harder every day to not despise the march of technological progress. There are so many eras of computing and internet that I would've loved to see elongated by 10+ years. Then, at least, we would've had more time to get tired of them. Instead, it feels like we're stuck wondering what we lost, in what feels like a very boring and much less fulfilling internet full of SPAM, bots, manipulation, endless pointles…

This is a major depressive thought of mine; that computers and the internet started as this wild west in which capitalism didn't have a hold, because information that can be infinitely copied cannot have value, but capitalism being extremely adaptive at infecting everything and anything turned it into bland corporate soup, and will continue to do so until every personal terminal is a dumb remote access screen that st…

I think it has less to do with corporations, and more to do with youth culture and us getting old. The internet has more on it than ever, you just need to know where to look. Yes, Newgrounds is dead, but big YouTube animators still exist, and there are still indie game communities like itch.io. But just like my Dad was uninterested in my video games, I find myself uninterested in the stuff kids do these days. I think there is just a nostalgia factor that draws us to stuff like Nekoweb.
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