I just created a new account using the free tier, and then afterwards decided I would like to play.
I went to my profile, clicked on "view financials", but when I press "Change Subscription Amount" the page just freezes. Why won't you let me give you my money?
Having a look in the console... Every time I press the "Change Subscription Amount" button there is a 500 API error from https://api.non.io/stripe/subscription and this is printed: {error: 'no customer for the user'}
I really do love the idea. But in addition to the moderation risks others have mentioned, are you prepared to issue tax documents to every jurisdiction where you might be rendering payments?
Yes ish, as currently I'm doing payouts via Stripe Connect (and likewise only paying out in countries that Stripe Connect supports, as it takes care of that aspect). Everything is theoretical until battle-tested however.
Personally, if i signed up, i would not be interested in getting payouts. I'd have to declare them on my tax return, and it's just not worth it for such small amounts. So a checkbox to donate any payouts to a charity (the EFF, perhaps?) would be great.
I've always liked the idea of this monetization model. But have you thought about how to disincentivize content stealing? Feels like these models end up needing a very thorough verification system.
It's a hard problem for sure. My hope is that paid users are easier to moderate than unpaid users, especially when Stripe Connect (what I use for payouts) verifies identity quite a bit.
I've spent enough time [Edit: on HN] to remember App.net¹ which was launched with similar fanfare but was shut down after few painful years of trying to find a PMF. The lesson I learned from that saga was HN might not be the best place to validate your product. We're too smart to diss even good ideas like DropBox. Go and talk to your potential customers and I hope the App.net story gives you some inspiration. 1: http…
I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...
I swear, the current protests have shined a very odd light on the average commenting Redditor, they want * The website to be free * The API to be cheap * The ability to use a 3rd party app that does not track, advertise, or monetize you in any way * VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI Good luck kids
That's just the average internet user. They want something for nothing and often get it.
If you do ask for a few dollars a month you have to provide a ton of perceived value. That's despite the fact that they would spend it on snacks without hesitation.
I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...
I swear, the current protests have shined a very odd light on the average commenting Redditor, they want * The website to be free * The API to be cheap * The ability to use a 3rd party app that does not track, advertise, or monetize you in any way * VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI Good luck kids
OpenStreetMap costs a few hundred thousand dollars a year to run. Wikipedia is about $3 million. Redditors are cheap, but you can have a backend doing the heavy lifting for a community (assuming mods work for free) at a cost that can be sustained with a small pool of financial contributors.
> VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI
None of this needs to cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…
100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…
maybe make the first 10,000 or 100,000 accounts free for life?
you need to build momentum somehow
maybe summarise what your users need to understand in a sidebar or closeable top-bar?
Cool project! For something like this to succeed at Reddit's scale, it should stay snappy under load (which admittedly Reddit doesn't). So clicked through to Github to see what it's written in: > Languages > Shell 100.0% I admired the absolute chadliness of this decision - until i realised this was just a top-level super-repo.
I also saw this and was initially both equally horrified and impressed.
You know I often daydream of creating a social media site that has a small monthly subscription, a way to show users they are not the product, a way to maintain integrity and not have to appease any VCs.
But when faced with it here I couldn't help but recoil a bit, and I'm not sure why.