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Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by sam0x17 »

easton wrote: post #76
csande17 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of developers only know the new, needlessly complicated ways of doing things. I have met professional software engineers who have never heard of shared web hosting, for example. It's also surprisingly possible to learn enough about programming to get a job without understanding basic computing concepts. I've met professional software engineers, with multiple years of experience and promotions under their belt,…

I thought that was crazy, but reflecting over my CS education they haven’t gone over the difference between disk space and RAM. I suppose they figure everyone already knows?

You sure you didn't have a computer architecture course? Most CS programs it is a required course

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by drusepth »

sleavey wrote: post #97

Can you actually point your phone camera at a QR code and have it connect automatically, as the website says? I generally avoid QR codes as they obfuscate the target URL, but I thought you needed an app for reading them on Android and possibly also iOS.

The default Android camera app will read them for you (and display the URL before you tap to open it in a browser) by either pointing the default camera at a QR code or manually scanning it with the "Lens" camera mode.

The Android wifi menu (where you select from nearby networks to join) also has a QR icon that lets you scan to immediately join a network (next to "Add network"). I'd imagine you'd also join if you scanned it from the camera app, too.

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

10000truths wrote: post #22
fredgrott wrote: post #13

who would believe such as statement that info is not collected or sent? I have some prime real estate in Florida to sell you if you do!

Luckily, you don’t have to believe - you can see for yourself by opening Developer tools in your browser and monitoring requests under the Network tab.

I don't think this simple app would have bad intentions, but your workaround isn't bulletproof either. The fact that the user has opened Dev Tools is detectable (I think the console object becomes != null?), so if the author has bad intentions, he can just unload the bad stuff when he detects that Dev Tools has been opened.

I've seen some sites unload the page and set up a breakpoint when Dev Tools is opened, so you can't even browse the source in it. I guess the trick would be to download the page's sources using wget, but if they used some obfuscation it becomes more painful to figure out what files need to be downloaded...

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by ComputerGuru »

dheera wrote: post #40
ThePadawan wrote: post #19

I do wish there was an option to safely disable all connectivity in a browser tab (forever) like with Javascript or camera access. Yes, saving the page, disconnecting your network connection, then deleting the page would work, but it's a real bother.

Also another nitpick: > View the source code It would be really nice if the source code in the browser (no, not the Github repo; how do I know the web server served the same thing as the Github repo?) were displayed in a human-readable format with proper tabbing, comments if applicable, and not an obfuscated, minified form. In fact if your goal isn't specifically obfuscation, it's not necessary to minify JS in genera…

We’re moving far, far away from the observability and introspection that once made the web a transparent medium. First it was minified JS, then it was minified and obfuscated JS, then it was using a canvas instead of the DOM to prevent even HTML inspection, and now it’s binary executable payloads (WASM) rendering to a WebGL context with zero introspection possible.

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by xeromal »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #46

Asking as a person who understands the fundamentals of all of the technologies involved but is horrified by much of what goes on in the minds of today's web developers and designers, what motivates the decision to make this repo use make, docker, yarn, npx, nginx, react, and jest rather than a bit of static HTML and css and something like qrjs2.js or VanillaQR.js with a simple canvas or datauri update in onInput?

Probably to learn those various technologies. Not only did they use a bunch of new tech, they made something other people can use in the process. Better than making a bunch of throwaway code.

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by avel »

ThePadawan wrote: post #19

I do wish there was an option to safely disable all connectivity in a browser tab (forever) like with Javascript or camera access. Yes, saving the page, disconnecting your network connection, then deleting the page would work, but it's a real bother.

DevTools -> network -> Change the throttling to "offline"

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by [deleted] »

bndw wrote: post #67
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #46

Asking as a person who understands the fundamentals of all of the technologies involved but is horrified by much of what goes on in the minds of today's web developers and designers, what motivates the decision to make this repo use make, docker, yarn, npx, nginx, react, and jest rather than a bit of static HTML and css and something like qrjs2.js or VanillaQR.js with a simple canvas or datauri update in onInput?

Answering as the author who also understands the fundamentals of all of the technologies involved and questions much of what goes on in the minds of today's web developers and designers-- I use Make as the standard way to interact with every repo I own. This allows me to type `make build` instead of `$some-language-specific-command-I-forget-in-2-weeks`. I use Docker for distributing every app I build. If the app is a…

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Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by esolyt »

valbaca wrote: post #88
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #46

Asking as a person who understands the fundamentals of all of the technologies involved but is horrified by much of what goes on in the minds of today's web developers and designers, what motivates the decision to make this repo use make, docker, yarn, npx, nginx, react, and jest rather than a bit of static HTML and css and something like qrjs2.js or VanillaQR.js with a simple canvas or datauri update in onInput?

People love to constantly say "Want to learn to code? Make projects! projects! projects!" and then when someone makes a project as a means to learn a particular technology, now people turn up their nose and say "ew, why did you use this?" Anyway, this project provides exactly what I needed. Thanks to OP for sharing! Slick and simple

Sure but if you want to learn a specific technology by making a project, it makes more sense to make a project that can actually benefit from that specific technology.

Re: Show HN: Print a WiFi Login Card

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Post by xeromal »

sleavey wrote: post #102
asutekku wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most phone cameras nowadays have a built in qr-code reader.

But does it automatically recognise it as an SSID and password and connect as the website suggests?

My Samsung S20 can. IDK about other phones.
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