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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by lucideer »

mcv wrote: post #90
lucideer wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if you've actually used an IMAP client witha Gmail account; if so, which one(s). A sibling comment has already mentioned the folder/flags mixup issue, but while it sounds like one small feature, that one thing is so fundamentally broken that I really can't see how any user of Gmail IMAP would overlook it. I get duplicate notifications for the same mail in INBOX and [Gmail]/All Mail and actions on one copy…

I use Mail on OS X. I've never had any problems with Gmail. Folders work fine. I never use flags. Notifications work fine. When I delete a message, it's gone. Sometimes it takes a while for the deletion to propagate from one device to another, but I've never had a message survive deletion long term.

I also use Mail on OSX and you're right, it does have excellent Gmail support. This is definitely down to Apple putting in the work to support Gmail though, rather than Mail simply using IMAP as usual and Gmail working like any other IMAP server would.

The gp was talking about RFCs and the IMAP protocol implementation itself, so I was talking about the Gmail server at the protocol level, rather than user interface.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by lucideer »

izacus wrote: post #41
lucideer wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if you've actually used an IMAP client witha Gmail account; if so, which one(s). A sibling comment has already mentioned the folder/flags mixup issue, but while it sounds like one small feature, that one thing is so fundamentally broken that I really can't see how any user of Gmail IMAP would overlook it. I get duplicate notifications for the same mail in INBOX and [Gmail]/All Mail and actions on one copy…

I used Thunderbird and am still using Airmail and they're working without issues for me. Faster, more responsive and better UI than any web crap.

I've never used Airmail, but the Thunderbird guys have put a lot of years[0] of work into specifically supporting Gmail's weirdness. It's still not as polished as something like macOS Mail (see commenter above)—you can still run into pitfalls syncing all folders/"labels" with special names, or moving emails from one folder/"label" to another, but it works ok.

[0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=40279...

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by chongli »

djsumdog wrote: post #21

It's interesting how back when programs actually ran on your machine, you could just use an older version. I knew people who never upgraded Winamp. Today we do know this is problematic (due to security updates mostly) but when it comes to web applications we don't have a choice. Don't like the new look, well tough. If the application has an API (like Reddit) you could write your own or use a better client. I could sa…

Yes! I'm using WinAmp 2.95 right now! I run it through Wine and it works perfectly on my Linux PC and my MBP running Mojave. I make it a point to use native apps (which I lump Wine into, since it's not running in the browser) these days.

I'm deeply skeptical of the cloud. The whole point seems to be to get us to rent the things we used to own. And if we're not paying the rental fees out of our wallet, then we're paying with our personal data instead.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by ytjohn »

mistermann wrote: post #97
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Gmail search often doesn't even work for me anymore, I simply can't understand how decisions are made at this company. Is there a way to migrate all your email and maintain your Gmail address indefinitely?

I've used imapsync before (link below). You configure in your gmail credentials on one side and your new account on the other. You'll want to set up "device" password for it to avoid any 2fa/not a robot checks. It does take a while due to google rate limiting (think days). But once you get it started, you can just let it run.

imapsync homepage: https://imapsync.lamiral.info/

imapsync github gmail faq: https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/blob/master/FAQ.d/FAQ.G...

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by ramenmeal »

momonga wrote: post #23
ramenmeal wrote: post #19

Was just implementing some email features on our application and we noticed that what we call "Friendly Reply To" doesn't work in desktop gmail. Setting the Reply-to field to "John Doe " won't show "John Doe" in the to section when you click reply. It will show "john.doe@gmail.com". What's odd is that google inbox, and gmail for android and iOS both will show "John Doe". Bug? Or opinion by Google?

Maybe it’s more of a security feature? What if phishing emails had a bogus email for the Reply-To name, E.g., “service@paypal.com ”

That was my first thought, but if that's the case, then why is it implemented in the mobile apps?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by schrodinger »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82
pixelrevision wrote: post #46

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Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

How's the search and spam filtering?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by socratesque »

mistermann wrote: post #97
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Gmail search often doesn't even work for me anymore, I simply can't understand how decisions are made at this company. Is there a way to migrate all your email and maintain your Gmail address indefinitely?

If I remember correctly (maybe four years ago) I just downloaded all my email over IMAP using some desktop client then re-uploaded onto Fastmail. It's a one time hassle but definitely worth it, especially if I had known what I had to do yesterday. I sifted through 10 years worth of email looking for train and plane tickets and hotel bookings etc because I needed to know exactly which dates I crossed which borders .. anyway off topic, a huge pain of course, but an easy task on Fastmail, where as my laptop gets brought to its heels every time I have to open my gmail inbox.

Oh and you can set gmail to forward everything to your Fastmail. You can even have it land in a separate folder to keep it all neat.

Lately I've had issues sending from my gmail account on Fastmail, I think google changed their security practices a while ago..

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by SpliffnCola »

fireattack wrote: post #77
SpliffnCola wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience is anecdotal of course but what is broken about it for you? It is working fine for me on Firefox 63.0.3 (64-bit) using ViewImage 2.1

Likely you are not on "new UI" yet, just like the dev of this extension. (Myself don't even know there will be a new UI either.)

That makes a lot of sense. I forgot about the A/B testing Google does. Edit: I noticed that Chrome defaults to using the new design even while logged in.

Logged in on Firefox though I’m not seeing the new design . Not sure if that helps anyone having trouble with the extension.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by vidarh »

joshuamorton wrote: post #75
jcousins wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.

I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

Bundles is the big one. Whenever I log in to normal Gmail now instead of Inbox I immediately get put off and reminded I really need an alternative to Gmail that won't let Google mess with my email interface any more.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by crazysim »

Vinnl wrote: post #85
joshuamorton wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps. (Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)

Recurring reminders. Can't do that with emailing stuff to yourself.
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