Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
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Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
But clearly what you mean when you say that is you really want a long-form article filled with OPs life story about how they discovered vegetables, best ways to prepare vegetables, pointers for the recipe, etc. interspersed with ads before finally delivering the recipe somewhere towards the bottom of the page (possible behind a link to a second page with the actual recipe). /s
Oh gosh those are the worst. And they never look good on your phone, so you have to get your laptop out (or tablet if you have one). If it's not a pointless blog/article header, then the ingredients and method are split up across "tabs". So that now, when it says "melt the butter and whisk in half the flour", you need to flick back and forward multiple times for each step to remember what to do and how much to add.
What gets me though is why Google suddenly felt the need to rank these sites over more established recipe sites that literally just gave you the recipe. I've been in digital marketing a long time and seen a few "waves" of major SEO updates come and go. When there seems to be a significant shift in quality for a category of results, Google does tend to eventually take action. So I wonder if we're going to see a correction at some point that stops favoring those sorts of aggregator blog posts and "long-form recipes."
The content being created is not valuable, and is clearly being done solely for rankings at this point.
If any Googlers are reading this, I'd love any additional insight as to why these sites continue to do well.
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#113Neat! But you've got some work to do to get the data in there. I put in my Southern Indiana zip code and got 12 results back. Only one was actually anywhere near my zipcode (or even in my state). The rest were anywhere from 200 - 500 miles away. Sorry, but I don't consider Maryland to be local to Indiana. I would suggest you work on getting data about local farms in there, and then tighten up the constraints for what…
Thanks for the feedback - this is very first version, and there are a lot of improvements to make. I think you're right about the wording, reading it with fresh eyes it is very confusing, and I'll change it ASAP. Right now, all the farm information data is pulled from aggregated USDA data so there is a ton of work left to do to get better, finer-grained results. My plan is to look at which zip codes get the most quer…
I think there are a few challenges with offering this as a commercial service. Firstly, the data. You stated you have a USDA data feed, that's great but is going to come away limited by its sources and I'd hazard a guess is largely going to be picking up sources that are the larger and more established versus smaller, more organic/seasonal farmers.
Second, the idea of locality. Right now I am typing this in Hong Kong and I can tell you basically nothing is produced here. So the locality model is 100% out of the question for many high density urban centers (which increasingly are where most people in the world live, usually in Asia).
Another issue from a conceptual standpoint is the high distance a lot of food travels in the US. Because of this reason the locality model is going to break down and the majority of the more established, larger-scale retail operators are sourcing in bulk from reliable supplies at distance rather than nearby vendors. What good is telling someone there are great local vegetables if they can't find them to buy them? Also, a half-price shipment may just have arrived from Honduras or Mexico.
Finally there is the reality of hydroponics. A great deal of some crops (eg. tomatoes, leafy greens, all baby greens) are produced in artificial growth conditions which are generally not seasonal or have exceptionally extended seasons.
If I were you I would think about the matches between data sources, potential demand and commercialization and see if you can't get in to the distribution ecosystem somehow (eg. 'supply chain transparecy') in more innovative places like Detroit where (according to media) a lot of this sort of thing is breaking down right now and there are probably good options for partnerships and cheap scaling.
Lots of people are trying to apply blockchain to agtech but the value add seems weak to me. If you went at the same space with a centralized model and a significant, customer-driven value add (short term/last minute deals for restaurants as per the recently fast growing and relatively new segment of hotels/travel, etc.) I do think this could have legs. But it seems there's a long way to go in finding and validating a model.
One way to look at it would be to have price and/or consumption data as your value add, another would be deal making, another would be qualitative assessment and supply chain transparency (some form of auditing/tracking). Another perspective to look at it from would be the players: restaurateurs, caterers, individual consumers, supermarket chains, farmers markets, etc. Many startups (eg. last mile food delivery) have done well partnering with restaurateurs who ware always under pressure and looking for an edge and immediate cashflow. There's surely opportunities in there, find them!
Just my 2c.
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#114Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh gosh those are the worst. And they never look good on your phone, so you have to get your laptop out (or tablet if you have one). If it's not a pointless blog/article header, then the ingredients and method are split up across "tabs". So that now, when it says "melt the butter and whisk in half the flour", you need to flick back and forward multiple times for each step to remember what to do and how much to add.
My kingdom for a browser plugin that automatically identifies a recipe site and strips out everything except the actual recipe. Reader mode comes close, but you still have to scroll through all the crap (assuming the recipe is all on one page). What gets me though is why Google suddenly felt the need to rank these sites over more established recipe sites that literally just gave you the recipe. I've been in digital m…
I have a clean site in a related space (https://keto.fm) and multiple subscribers have commented along the lines of: "this looked like a spam site, but once we browsed through it, it had rrally good content!"
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#116Very interesting! Can you talk a little bit about the reliability of your data?
I would say that the data I have at the moment are reliable in the sense that they are collated from informed, reasonably up to date sources (mainly US government sources at the moment). I would say that they are not very complete and not very granular yet, but this is something I am working on.
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#117> Chile Peppers > Chaves County, New Mexico (607 miles) > In peak season I guess there's a reason we call this hunting season... deer, turkey,pheasent, quail, dove plus many non-game animals (hogs, etc) are in season in the midwest.
Some very angsty vegetarians on HN :D
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
You need inspiration to cook a vegetable?
We wouldn't be having a obesity epidemic if that wasn't the case.
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh gosh those are the worst. And they never look good on your phone, so you have to get your laptop out (or tablet if you have one). If it's not a pointless blog/article header, then the ingredients and method are split up across "tabs". So that now, when it says "melt the butter and whisk in half the flour", you need to flick back and forward multiple times for each step to remember what to do and how much to add.
My kingdom for a browser plugin that automatically identifies a recipe site and strips out everything except the actual recipe. Reader mode comes close, but you still have to scroll through all the crap (assuming the recipe is all on one page). What gets me though is why Google suddenly felt the need to rank these sites over more established recipe sites that literally just gave you the recipe. I've been in digital m…
It works on a few sites I know are popular plus any that use the standard div with "itemtype" set to "http[s]://schema.org/Recipe", which seems to handle about 85% of the long-winded blogs out there. It extracts the recipe div and displays it nicely at the top of the page, dimming the site behind it. It has a button at the bottom of the recipe to dismiss the popup. Most sites include a handy print link or button at the top as well so you can quickly click through to that formatting as well (i.e. if you actually print recipes or use the Paprika recipe manager bookmarklet).
You can install the CRX directly: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sean-public/RecipeFilter/m...
I will work on it some more to have proper controls, icon, work on more sites, etc then get it into the Chrome Web Store for easy installation.
Thanks for the final push!
Re: Show HN: Fruits and vegetables in season in your zip code
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
My kingdom for a browser plugin that automatically identifies a recipe site and strips out everything except the actual recipe. Reader mode comes close, but you still have to scroll through all the crap (assuming the recipe is all on one page). What gets me though is why Google suddenly felt the need to rank these sites over more established recipe sites that literally just gave you the recipe. I've been in digital m…
I've also wanted such an extension so after reading this comment I was finally spurred into action. It works on a few sites I know are popular plus any that use the standard div with "itemtype" set to "http[s]://schema.org/Recipe", which seems to handle about 85% of the long-winded blogs out there. It extracts the recipe div and displays it nicely at the top of the page, dimming the site behind it. It has a button at…
Honestly, this is the sort of thing that once Amazon adds a Whole Foods API for ordering, you could add an unobtrusive "order these ingredients for pickup at Whole Foods" link or something at the bottom and hopefully make some commission off of it.
Ping me when it's built and I'll help you promote it if you're interested (I'm a marketer).