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Re: Show HN: Primrose – a text editor that runs in a WebGL texture

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Post by Zancarius » Mon, Feb 02, 2015, 10:43 PM UTC

bronz wrote: post #70

Zancarius wrote: post #51

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I'm the same way, so I can relate to your pain. I've had this happen before with Chrome/Chromium with hundreds of tabs. I now use Firefox for two reasons: One, the UI is better than Chrome/Chromium with hundreds of tabs active, and two I now simply periodically clear out long term tabs when I no longer have an immediate need for them by bookmarking them. My friends think I'm insane by keeping so many tabs open. Maybe…

Wow, you really get it. You really hit the nail of the head about bookmarks. They are almost always completely forgotten. Tabs, however, are constantly groomed and sifted through and pruned. If I could have my way, I would take Safari with all it's nice features like sexy tab scrolling and tab view (these are major assets to the tab junkie) and reshape it into something entirely tab based. Instead of bookmarks, you w…

> Tabs, however, are constantly groomed and sifted through and pruned.

Exactly this (apologies for the 2-day delay!). This is exactly why I keep so many tabs open, because I can filter them and use them as a living browsing session. It also provides me with some amusement when I look through tabs opened weeks (sometimes months?) prior, because it gives me a snapshot into what I was thinking of/looking for during that window of history.

I'm really glad to find others who share my usage patterns. I don't feel so weird. :D

Aside: Just a week or two ago, I archived a bunch of tabs from a generic browsing session and I think the total came close to 980. Eeeek!

Re: Show HN: Primrose – a text editor that runs in a WebGL texture

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Post by Zancarius » Mon, Feb 02, 2015, 10:50 PM UTC

alexvoda wrote: post #82

bronz wrote: post #70

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Wow, you really get it. You really hit the nail of the head about bookmarks. They are almost always completely forgotten. Tabs, however, are constantly groomed and sifted through and pruned. If I could have my way, I would take Safari with all it's nice features like sexy tab scrolling and tab view (these are major assets to the tab junkie) and reshape it into something entirely tab based. Instead of bookmarks, you w…

Brothers, I found you! Finally people who use tabbed browsing like me. Is there some forum for advanced tab browsing users? If not maybe we should make one. For me windows are tasks/areas of research. A task can last minutes, hours, days or even weeks. Inside windows there are groups and each group has a starting point(usually a google search) from which many tabs are generated and then checked individually. And than…

> Is there some forum for advanced tab browsing users?

Not that I'm aware of, but there might be a support group. ;)

Joking aside, it's curious how much flak you can take from suggesting that you make extensive use of a feature that's built into the browser... everyone I know thinks I'm a bit odd when they see my Firefox sessions.

> For me windows are tasks/areas of research. A task can last minutes, hours, days or even weeks.

I really like this perspective, because it's deeply reflective of my usage patterns. For example, when I was learning Golang, I had a session opened exclusively for that, with all the respective documentation, some blogs, tutorials, and various odds and ends. Over time it evolved, certainly, but those tabs remained open for the duration that I needed them. It doesn't matter if it's a day, two days, or two months.

I have one Firefox profile configured to use Session Manager with various saved sessions based on whatever I'm working on. So, whenever I need a major context switch, I save the current session, then switch to the one I need. It allows me to pick up where I left off--even if there's 300+ tabs in that particular list. Though, I'm pretty bad about clearing some of those tabs out--oftentimes it's because I want to revisit whatever I was researching, even if it takes several months!

It sounds like you and I do about the same thing in that regard! Although, I've yet to learn the bookmarking technique. ;) Presently, for my generic browsing, I just dump everything into a dated folder. Everything else of interest that I don't want to inadvertently lose gets shunted into my unsorted bookmarks without a date under the pretense that I'll eventually categorize it (which I usually do). I think I'll have to try the categorization for tasks that are complete rather than simply bookmarking tabs individually and massacring the rest.

Re: Show HN: Primrose – a text editor that runs in a WebGL texture

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Post by Zancarius » Mon, Feb 02, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

gbuk2013 wrote: post #89

Zancarius wrote: post #51

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I'm the same way, so I can relate to your pain. I've had this happen before with Chrome/Chromium with hundreds of tabs. I now use Firefox for two reasons: One, the UI is better than Chrome/Chromium with hundreds of tabs active, and two I now simply periodically clear out long term tabs when I no longer have an immediate need for them by bookmarking them. My friends think I'm insane by keeping so many tabs open. Maybe…

Firefox also has the very useful "Restore Previous Session" option under the "History" menu - perfect for when you close your browser by accident (in case of a crash Firefox reopens last tabs by default anyway). The tabs are also "soft-loaded" meaning that you have to click on them to load the content, so you can find the offending tab and kill it to prevent crash from happening again.

I use "restore previous session" pretty extensively, personally, especially if I have multiple windows open. That said, I've very rarely had bad luck with it in prior versions of Firefox, occasionally discovering that it's trashed my sessions. Thus, even today, I still keep Session Manager installed as an insurance policy. (Though, I still backup ~/.mozilla pretty regularly too...)

> The tabs are also "soft-loaded" meaning that you have to click on them to load the content

I couldn't be happier since Mozilla switched to this mechanism. It means reloading a massive browsing instance isn't quite as resource intensive. Last I checked Chrome/Chromium, it STILL doesn't do this, which is infuriating and part of the reason I dumped using Chromium as my primary general browser.

There's nothing worse than when as few as 100 tabs can eat up ~2-3GiB RAM right after you start the browser...

Re: Show HN: Primrose – a text editor that runs in a WebGL texture

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Post by noiv » Tue, Feb 03, 2015, 5:26 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #80

noiv wrote: post #76

Sadly no umlauts, but the other alphanumeric keys are mapped correctly. Any chance for non-English keyboard support?

Which keyboard are you using? It's impossible to accurately detect keyboard layout in javascript, but I do provide a option to select keyboards. Unfortunately, the only ones I've had time to implement so far are US QWERTY, UK Extended QWERTY, FR AZERTY, and DEU QWERTZ. There is a small bug that I haven't fixed yet that requires you to look away from the editor to make the drop down lists on the instructions page work…

It's a CodePages.DE_QWERTZ.

Re: Show HN: Primrose – a text editor that runs in a WebGL texture

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Post by alexvoda » Tue, Feb 03, 2015, 6:52 PM UTC

Zancarius wrote: post #102

alexvoda wrote: post #82

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Brothers, I found you! Finally people who use tabbed browsing like me. Is there some forum for advanced tab browsing users? If not maybe we should make one. For me windows are tasks/areas of research. A task can last minutes, hours, days or even weeks. Inside windows there are groups and each group has a starting point(usually a google search) from which many tabs are generated and then checked individually. And than…

> Is there some forum for advanced tab browsing users? Not that I'm aware of, but there might be a support group. ;) Joking aside, it's curious how much flak you can take from suggesting that you make extensive use of a feature that's built into the browser ... everyone I know thinks I'm a bit odd when they see my Firefox sessions. > For me windows are tasks/areas of research. A task can last minutes, hours, days or…

One of the extensions that is priceless to haw I do this is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multiple-tab-...

The ability to shift select tabs and bookmark, move to a new window or close is amazing.