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Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

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Post by hypfer »

> Using a code agent involves editing big chunks of multi-line text, and getting hosed with information that you need to scan, navigate, and understand. I find a terminal UX horrible for all those tasks, and Juggler is resolutely a GUI app.

Thank you for building software made for actual productive usage instead of weird ricer clout and other performative nonsense.

> Yes, it's another AI coding agent. The industry definitely needed one more.

It actually does need more of them. The current count of harnesses that don't suck is a float somewhere around 0.3, maybe.

Keep doing what you're doing!

I'd love to have software that is actually made to solve problems instead of somehow pretend-granting me some identity. Or just being made by people with no taste in general.

My god the agent harness space is so bad. As if no one in there has ever seen a software in their whole life.

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

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Post by julesrms »

LeSaucy wrote: post #19

For running headless is it possible to not require installing libwebkitgtk-6.0.so.4

FYI I've got a plan for this now, I'll make it fallback to using node/bun as its javascript engine if GTK isn't available. So watch out for the next release if this is a showstopper for you..

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

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Post by sinfulprogeny »

julesrms wrote: post #71

As this post gradually sinks downwards on the HN front page, I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who've made all the lovely comments, it's great to get some feedback to show I haven't been wasting my time building this! And as I said, this whole project was 100% done by me in my spare time, with zero money behind it, and no real plan for what happens to it now! If you like it, please spread the word, as I don't h…

Just wanted to take the opportunity to say hello and thank you. I haven't really made anything in juce worth sharing, but for a couple of years I was deep in the vst swamp and tinkered a lot with juce. I learned a lot from it, got a very niche job thanks to it, and as a direct consequence have met some dear friends and made huge progress in my musical "career".

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

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Post by dixtel »

julesrms wrote: post #8
Semkas wrote: post #6

This looks cool! I'll check it out. Out of curiosity: I assume you've also used agents to help build this, and on the site you mention working on this for ~6 months. Most one-man projects I see that use ai seem to focus on creating and presenting a concept as soon as possible (to a lot of people I think the main benefit of stuff like vibing is that you really quickly get something that you can have others test out).…

I must have authored literally a million lines of C++ over my career, and done many talks about clean coding, etc.. But in this one I quite appropriately wrong almost zero lines by hand! Surprisingly, I've really enjoyed the experience. I have friends who lament that they probably won't be hand-writing code much more, but although I've always loved the craft of coding, I discovered that a lot of the fun I get is just…

> they probably won't be hand-writing code much more

Why is that, can you elaborate a bit?

Also one question about economics of writing such tools using AI - How much it costs you?

PS: It looks great, I want to try it today :)

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

#108

Post by shunia_huang »

Sorry but it's not real BYOK to me as there is no UI/method provided to modify the providers, instead the app provides limited provider list and only allow custom API keys. I personally have a big list of providers under a CliProxyAPI service for easier management working with multiple coding agents and multiple serious or experimental providers, so I combine them whatever I want to have different experience, also much easier to work with so much API keys.

For example, I have my codex pointing to the CPA endpoint and the actual running model is a openai compatible one from an specific provider with specific base URL. I hope this could be considered add into roadmap.

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

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Post by julesrms »

dixtel wrote: post #107
julesrms wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must have authored literally a million lines of C++ over my career, and done many talks about clean coding, etc.. But in this one I quite appropriately wrong almost zero lines by hand! Surprisingly, I've really enjoyed the experience. I have friends who lament that they probably won't be hand-writing code much more, but although I've always loved the craft of coding, I discovered that a lot of the fun I get is just…

> they probably won't be hand-writing code much more Why is that, can you elaborate a bit? Also one question about economics of writing such tools using AI - How much it costs you? PS: It looks great, I want to try it today :)

Well, once the LLMs are better and faster at writing code than the humans, coding by hand becomes a hobby rather than a job..

I guess personally I spend just over 100/month on LLM subs

Re: Show HN: Juggler – an open-source GUI coding agent, by the creator of JUCE

#110

Post by dixtel »

julesrms wrote: post #109
dixtel wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they probably won't be hand-writing code much more Why is that, can you elaborate a bit? Also one question about economics of writing such tools using AI - How much it costs you? PS: It looks great, I want to try it today :)

Well, once the LLMs are better and faster at writing code than the humans, coding by hand becomes a hobby rather than a job.. I guess personally I spend just over 100/month on LLM subs

> coding by hand becomes a hobby rather than a job

Yeah, I guess that will be the future. I'm not sure if its a good thing or not. I hope it will not affect my job position.

Last question, which LLM provider you use and the model?

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