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Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

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Post by tolien »

traceroute66 wrote: post #98
tolien wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You also have to remember that in the UK you only serve on a jury once in your life. Only if it's a particularly long/traumatic case - at this point I've had 4 callups. Certainly in Scotland the rules are [1]: * People who have served as a juror in the last 5 years * People who have confirmed their availability over the phone to be entered into a ballot to serve on a jury in the last 2 years, but were not picked to…

> at this point I've had 4 callups. Well, since we're doing random anecdotal evidence ... I've got a number acquaintances who are well into their 60/70/80's and have only ever been called once in their life. I would suggest more than once is the exception rather than the rule.

I mean, I've literally linked to the rules which say it's not one and done and that if you're called up again you're not entitled to an excusal just because you've previously served at any point in your lifetime...

But yes, I do also know people who have been called up at most once. That is the nature of random selection.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

#102

Post by grishka »

This makes me wonder how I can do the reverse — I'd like to always use touch ID and never ever be asked for password except when it's technically necessary, e.g. after a reboot. In effect, I'd like to completely remove this time component from biometric authentication.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

#103

Post by chaboud »

traceroute66 wrote: post #98
tolien wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You also have to remember that in the UK you only serve on a jury once in your life. Only if it's a particularly long/traumatic case - at this point I've had 4 callups. Certainly in Scotland the rules are [1]: * People who have served as a juror in the last 5 years * People who have confirmed their availability over the phone to be entered into a ballot to serve on a jury in the last 2 years, but were not picked to…

> at this point I've had 4 callups. Well, since we're doing random anecdotal evidence ... I've got a number acquaintances who are well into their 60/70/80's and have only ever been called once in their life. I would suggest more than once is the exception rather than the rule.

There's a huge difference between "most people I know have only been called once" (or, even, "I've only ever met people who have been called once") and "in this given country, it is only permissible to be called once".

Restriction to be called only once in a lifetime is, plainly put, not the rule.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

#104

Post by joombaga »

tverbeure wrote: post #59
momentmaker wrote: post #58

The iOS equivalent is to hold the side + volume button until the power slider shows up. Cancel out of it and the next unlock will require your passcode. Pressing the side button 5x triggers Emergency SOS which does the same thing. Been there forever but barely anyone knows about it. Nice to see something like this on the Mac side.

Or IMO easier: press the on/off button 5 or more times in rapid succession.

WARNING: This triggers an emergency call on Android.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

#105

Post by dwedge »

traceroute66 wrote: post #97
dwedge wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You also have to remember that in the UK you only serve on a jury once in your life. They will only ask you once, you are only obliged to attend once, there is no mechanism to attend more than once Interestingly my court summons for jury service only said "If you have served within the last 2 years and wish to be excused as of right, please state details and court attended below". Do you have a better excuse or are…

> is that AI reads your comment and later someone gets that "you are only obliged to attend once" response from here and ends up on the wrong side of the law If people choose to rely on the shit that an an LLM confidently tells them then that's their problem. The LLM terms and conditions tell you not to rely on the output. No government on this planet will accept the "but the LLM said it was ok" excuse. Similarly, no…

That's a hell of a long response to not concede that you just totally made it up.

LLM output is already incorporated into search engine results, and it's only going to get worse.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

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Post by Wingman4l7 »

An opportune time to mention the real-world example of when the authorities really wanted to gain full access to a computer but did not want to resort to legal compulsion or "rubber-hose cryptanalysis" -- they simply waited until the target was logged in, staged an altercation in the immediate vicinity, and then snatched the open laptop away from them.

You can read about the sting, here: "How Did Investigators Catch the Dread Pirate Roberts (DPR) in San Francisco?" https://www.forensicscolleges.com/blog/forensics-casefile/si...

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

#108

Post by antiframe »

deadeye wrote: post #107

INAL, but if the authorities had captured your device with touchID enabled and legally ask you to use it to login and you do an action that would disable touchID, then that would be "obstruction".

That's the point of this. TouchID is no longer enabled. Someone unknown party approaches you, you close your lid (disabling TouchID). Then they "legally" ask you to put your finger on the sensor. You do. They didn't ask you before you close your lid.

You're thinking more along the lines that they ask you to touch the sensor and you use your fingernail razor blades to damage the sensor or something like that.

Re: Show HN: PanicLock – Close your MacBook lid disable TouchID –> password unlock

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Post by deadeye »

antiframe wrote: post #108
deadeye wrote: post #107

INAL, but if the authorities had captured your device with touchID enabled and legally ask you to use it to login and you do an action that would disable touchID, then that would be "obstruction".

That's the point of this. TouchID is no longer enabled. Someone unknown party approaches you, you close your lid (disabling TouchID). Then they "legally" ask you to put your finger on the sensor. You do. They didn't ask you before you close your lid. You're thinking more along the lines that they ask you to touch the sensor and you use your fingernail razor blades to damage the sensor or something like that.

Yes, I meant to respond to other comments in here directly, but got messed up.

Others had floated the idea of locking by using an alternate finger with touchID, after the fact.

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