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Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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I was about to ask the same thing. I saw mentioning of gdpr, feels like at least some europeans are involved. However: I don’t want to have my data in the US for at least 3 years. For businesses outside the US: they simply cannot have their data in US anymore. Build european/non-us would be a great argument to use this product.

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You guys are awesome! I hope you will succeed.

Any way to migrate my data from slack to Dock?

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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I’m very puzzled by Google chat to be honest. It’s a massive missing piece in the Google workspace toolchest. Teams is the central place for companies on Microsoft, and arguably the most sticky part of the MS cloud productivity stack. So it can’t be lost on Google how important it is to have something here. Google slides, docs, sheets are fantastic products, but Google chat is so clunky and awkward that it seems hard…

Really? Teams is the most sticky? Teams sucks. Excel and PowerPoint are the most sticky parts, and Teams just comes bundled with those.

Perhaps he has a very narrow definition of "the MS cloud productivity stack"

Windows? Office? Not cloud, in its roots. Active Directory? Entra? Azure? Not productivity. Github? Not MS. Copilot? Not sticky.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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This caught my eye: > $50 /month > $300/year if paid annually I've never seen such a steep discount for annual payment. 50%! Whereas this, under the "what we don't do": > Feature circus > Workflows, canvases, clips, huddles, lists... When did chat get this complicated? This is not very believable. This new product doesn't have those things because they haven't had time to build them yet. They will. Because there will…

I see nothing mentioned about integrating webhooks or some kind of similar feature. The Slack app ecosystem and the general ease of integrating literally anything into it is the revolution of the whole thing. It’s great that this is “Slack with no features/bloat and cheap” but I’m not sure the creators of this project realize how cheap Slack already is. If you’re hiring employees, paying under ten bucks a month per u…

>I see nothing mentioned about integrating webhooks or some kind of similar feature.

Exactly - nothing so far. But it's impossible to believe they won't.

>If you’re hiring employees, paying under ten bucks a month per user for a full communication suite is not bad.

Yeah, if the Slack is for an organisation of full-time employees, the pricing is a non-issue.

All the cases where it's been a problem are something different: either an organisation of volunteers, or just a collective of people, or maybe an org that has some employees and some contractors who might be inactive for a while etc etc.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…

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please don't reply to HN comments with AI responses

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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post #99
post #89

I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…

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This is a copy-paste from some sort of LLM, which doesn't inspire any confidence. Pasted it twice too

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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post #99
post #89

I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare. In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't h…

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This response sounds very much like LLM. "You've hit on a core part of our mission.". lol

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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post #8

I'm with you on the frustration with Slack and every month when I see our bill I consider forcing the company to change. My co-founder and I tried moving to Google Chat. We already pay for workspace so why not. What kept us on slack is the external partners who are on slack. This is a bigger deal than you might think. Google chat doesn't allow you to add external members unless they were added at the creation of the…

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Please ask ChatGPT that you're clearly using to write these responses to reapond in proper human speech, and format for Hacker News.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Feels like the more important question is how are you going to do all these things when Slack cuts you off, or there is some new Slack policy that prevents it, or they increase their pricing by 1000% Haven’t you basically built your entire business on this singular proprietary platform they you have almost no control over?

> Feels like the more important question is how are you going to do all these things when Slack cuts you off I pay Slack $50k/year. They have no reason to shut me off. > or there is some new Slack policy that prevents it Prevents what exactly? The new API pricing they introduced doesn't apply to internal apps. I suppose they could apply it to internal apps. We'd have to figure out a path around it > or they increase…

$50k a year? Those are rookie numbers. You're actually fine, as a small fish going belly up isn't the end of the world. You can start a new business. For some big tech companies this is potentially near existential. I would know.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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kudos for posting a Show HN. not doubting it's useful but it feels very vibecoded > Async messages for deep work. Real-time chat when it matters. Work across timezones without the noise. What does that even mean? I encourage you to rewrite the copy and drop the emoji. your CTA at the top is "join waitlist_" with that funky underscore cursor but there's a free version I can "get started free" now? doesn't add up also…

Wow, they have a wait list. Are they also 50% off for a limited time?

Any more FOMO bits on their page?

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feels like the more important question is how are you going to do all these things when Slack cuts you off, or there is some new Slack policy that prevents it, or they increase their pricing by 1000% Haven’t you basically built your entire business on this singular proprietary platform they you have almost no control over?

> Feels like the more important question is how are you going to do all these things when Slack cuts you off I pay Slack $50k/year. They have no reason to shut me off. > or there is some new Slack policy that prevents it Prevents what exactly? The new API pricing they introduced doesn't apply to internal apps. I suppose they could apply it to internal apps. We'd have to figure out a path around it > or they increase…

> I pay Slack $50k/year. They have no reason to shut me off.

They don't have to shut you off - but they've got every reason to raise the price.

If they can bully you onto a $15/user/month 'Business Plus' plan, your 1000 clients would cost you $180,000 a year.

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