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Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by blauditore »

dboreham wrote: post #88
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

This comment is wrong in two ways: 1. Current LLMs do much better than produce "small programs that already exist in multiple forms in the training data". Of course the knowledge they use does need to exist somewhere in training data, but they operate at a higher level of abstraction than simply spitting out programs they've already seen whole cloth. Way higher. 2. Inventing a new compression algorithm is beyond the…

2. is not really true. There are famous people claiming that AI will fix climate change, so we as humans should stop bothering.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by zellyn »

spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

trifling.org is an entire Python coding site, offline first (localstorage after first load), with docs, turtle graphics, canvas, and avatar editor, vibe coded from start to finish, with all conversations in the GitHub repo here: https://github.com/zellyn/trifling/tree/main/docs/sessions

This is going to destroy my home network, since I never moved it off the little Lenovo box sitting in my laundry room beside the Eero waypoint, but I’m out of town for three days, so

Granted, the seed of the idea was someone posting about how they wired pyiodide to Ace in 400 lines of JavaScript, so I can’t truly argue it’s non-trivial.

As a light troll to hackernews, only AI-written contributions are accepted

[Edit: the true inception of this project was my kid learning Python at school and trinket.io inexplicably putting Python 3 but not 2 behind the paywall. Alas, Securely will not let him and his classmates actually access it ]

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

jungturk wrote: post #62
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

Much of the coding we do is repetitive and exists in the training data, so I think its pretty great if AI can eliminate that toil and liberate the meat to focus on the creative work.

There’s a reason they call working at Google “shuffling protobufs” for the vast majority of engineers. Most software work isn’t innovative compression algorithms. It’s moving data around, which is a well understood problem

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 »

rvz wrote: post #57
aurareturn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are the perfect size projects vibe coding is currently good for. So far... it's going to keep getting better to the point until all software is written this way.

Air traffic control software is not going to be vibe-coded anytime soon and neither is the firmware controlling the plane.

I will be perfectly honest. Given what I am seeing, I fully expect someone to actually try just that.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by batshit_beaver »

solumunus wrote: post #51
auggierose wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It is called programming.

Using agents is programming. Programming is done with the mind, the tapping of keys isn’t inherent to the process.

Unfortunately IDEs are not yet directly connected to our minds, so there's still that silly little step of encoding your ideas in a way that can be compiled into binary. Playing the broken telephone game with an LLM is not always the most efficient way of explaining things to a computer.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by onion2k »

ncallaway wrote: post #86
boplicity wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

> People keep asking AI coding tools to be something other than what they currently are. I think it's for a very reasonable reason: the AI coding tool salespeople are often selling the tools as something other than what they currently are. I think you're right, that if you calibrate your expectations to what the tools are capable of, there's definitely. It would be nice if the marketing around AI also did the same th…

AI sales seems to be very much aligned with productivity improvement - "do more of the same but faster" or "do the same with fewer people"). No one is selling "do more".

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by skydhash »

delichon wrote: post #36
AtreidesTyrant wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This style of writing isnt human. Its AI. ^^ These dramatic statements are almost always AI influenced, I seem to always see them in people's emails now as well. "we didnt reinvent the wheel. we are the wheel."

We can learn useful rhetorical techniques from AI that can help us clearly communicate. We should separate those babies from the bathwater.

You can also just find a book on writing. I recommend "On Writing Well" by William Zinsser. Dense and quite informative.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by Teknomadix »

boplicity wrote: post #75
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

>People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls.

“It resembles a normal hammer but is outfitted with an little motor and an flexible head part which moves back and forth in a hammering motion, sparing the user from moving his or her own hand to hammer something by their own force and by so making their job easier”

https://gremlins.fandom.com/wiki/Electric_Hammer

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by simonw »

blauditore wrote: post #92
boplicity wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

Because that's the vision of many companies trying to sell AI. Saying that what it can do now is actually already good enough might be true, but it's also moving the goalposts compared to what was promised (or feared, depending who you're asking).

One of the many important skills needed to navigate our weird new LLM landscape is ignoring what the salespeople say and listening to the non-incentivized practitioners instead.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by fiyec30375 »

spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

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