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Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#101

Post by pvg »

constantcrying wrote: post #100
pvg wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Because it's shitty and tedious? It's so shitty and so tedious there there are forum (beside basic human) conventions against it. They're right in the links above. Your comment is flagged dead. What further explanations are necessary here, really? "Don't be an internet jerk" is hardly an abstruse or unusual social concept. Also don't pretend this is some drive by "This sucks because hiring sucks" I don't have to…

I do not believe that I even came close to breaking any rules or that I even went slightly off topic. Of course I was "shitty", by not giving someone a pat on the back for their "hard work", simply because I think what they did is a waste of time and effort. Obviously I know that criticizing someone, who has put in significant work is very looked down upon. This is also one of the reason I was flagged, the other wing…

I do not believe that I even came close to breaking any rules or that I even went slightly off topic.

I'm afraid you're simply mistaken about that. It's not an ambiguous thing, it's repeated a bunch of times over and there are reams of mod comments about it. You don't owe anyone here pat on the back. You do owe everyone here basic decency or if you can't manage that, simply abstaining from bilecommenting.

This is also one of the reason I was flagged

You could ask the moderators to remove the flag if that's the case.

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#102

Post by mathgradthrow »

throwanem wrote: post #93
williamdclt wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't say anything about acting? They said men have to "sustain" - ie hold an erection without ejaculating.

Right. Acting. It isn't more difficult for men because their part is, uh, hydraulically obvious. More to the point, it isn't less hard work for women. I get why guys assume it would be, though. Good grief, I bet you probably think you've never seen anyone fake an orgasm outside a porno, too...

gender roles, and dare I say even sex roles, are actually noticeably different in sex.

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#103

Post by stevenalowe »

jwmoz wrote: post #40

'Principal' developer at my last place spent 100 consecutive days grinding leetcode. Shortly after had an interview where they made him do a leetcode test live and he failed it. The whole thing is broken.

if only he had spent 101 days...

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#104

Post by stmw »

bornfreddy wrote: post #95
stmw wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it paints part of a picture - obviously you shouldn't hire just based on top score in an algorithmic interview. But if I interview someone for a JOB WRITING CODE with decades of experience and they refuse to write code and can't explain the difference between a linked list and an array, that's a good argument for reconsidering hiring them...

Sure, explain. Write? Not sure about that. The main question is what kind of code they are supposed to write. Have you actually used a linked list in a company setting? I know the difference, but can't say I've used it... ever, in a company setting. I guess if I worked for Redis or similar this would be base requirement, but for 98% of software development jobs I don't see where this could be useful. My experience is…

Yes, I have used a linked list in a company setting, both in writing code and in technically leading things where understanding the behavior of linked lists vs arrays was important. But again, it's not the only criteria in these kinds of interviews IF CONDUCTED WELL - the specific experience you cite, of "developers eager to squeeze every last drop... makes code review a nightmare. For a feature that doesn't need it" is also part of what you're looking for. And you can ask a candidate who does that "hey, that seems unnecessary here and hard to undrstand, why are you doing that?"

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#105

Post by tomhow »

constantcrying wrote: post #5

[flagged]

It's fine to feel whatever you feel about technical interviews, but the guidelines ask us to be more measured when we post comments here. Several guidelines cover this in different ways:

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Please don't fulminate.

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#106

Post by tomhow »

lr0 wrote: post #19

[flagged]

That comment and yours both broke the guidelines [1], particularly the one that asks us not to "fulminate".

It's fine and welcome here to critique anything, we're just trying to make HN something other than a ragefest, particularly about topics that people have been saying the same enraged things about for a long time.

When the same things have been said about an issue for a long time, it's time to think about new ideas and new solutions to that issue.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#107

Post by throwanem »

mathgradthrow wrote: post #102
throwanem wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. Acting. It isn't more difficult for men because their part is, uh, hydraulically obvious. More to the point, it isn't less hard work for women. I get why guys assume it would be, though. Good grief, I bet you probably think you've never seen anyone fake an orgasm outside a porno, too...

gender roles, and dare I say even sex roles, are actually noticeably different in sex .

Did I say that they were not?

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#108

Post by constantcrying »

pvg wrote: post #101
constantcrying wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not believe that I even came close to breaking any rules or that I even went slightly off topic. Of course I was "shitty", by not giving someone a pat on the back for their "hard work", simply because I think what they did is a waste of time and effort. Obviously I know that criticizing someone, who has put in significant work is very looked down upon. This is also one of the reason I was flagged, the other wing…

I do not believe that I even came close to breaking any rules or that I even went slightly off topic. I'm afraid you're simply mistaken about that. It's not an ambiguous thing, it's repeated a bunch of times over and there are reams of mod comments about it. You don't owe anyone here pat on the back. You do owe everyone here basic decency or if you can't manage that, simply abstaining from bilecommenting. This is als…

>I'm afraid you're simply mistaken about that. It's not an ambiguous thing, it's repeated a bunch of times over and there are reams of mod comments about it.

Again, I do not see which rules I would have broken. If there is some esoteric mod commentary, that it is off topic to talk about something more abstractly, than I am totally unaware of that and to be honest I neither believe that to be the case nor would I take that seriously. As far as the rules of the site go, I do not see how I violated them at all. Neither in wording nor in spirit, to be honest talking about things more abstractly seems to be explicitly encouraged by the rules and reading them again, after you linked them only made this more certain to me.

>You do owe everyone here basic decency or if you can't manage that, simply abstaining from bilecommenting.

I don't know what that means. My comment contained a substantive critique and I have not insulted any person, beyond pointing out what they did is a total waste of time. To be honest I do understand that my comment was quite negative and I agree that obviously many people reacted to this negatively. I fail to see how it is against any rules to make comments with harsh critiques that other perceive negatively.

>You could ask the moderators to remove the flag if that's the case.

Again, I expected the negative reaction. If people want to flag me for being critical that is their prerogative.

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#109

Post by mathgradthrow »

throwanem wrote: post #107
mathgradthrow wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gender roles, and dare I say even sex roles, are actually noticeably different in sex .

Did I say that they were not?

the entire premise of your objection is "what about women in porn?"

OC listed three jobs total, the premise being that jobs in which a tryout is a useful evaluation tool are rare.

There is no a priori reason to believe that the very different jobs that men and women have as porn actors should both fall into this rare category.

Unless, of course, you're reflexively looking to take offense at the idea that men and women are not interchangeable.

Re: Show HN: Every problem and solution in Beyond Cracking the Coding Interview

#110

Post by throwanem »

mathgradthrow wrote: post #109
throwanem wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I say that they were not?

the entire premise of your objection is "what about women in porn?" OC listed three jobs total, the premise being that jobs in which a tryout is a useful evaluation tool are rare. There is no a priori reason to believe that the very different jobs that men and women have as porn actors should both fall into this rare category. Unless, of course, you're reflexively looking to take offense at the idea that men and wome…

Someone has reflexively taken offense at something here. It's clear who and I think I see what, but I have to confess myself still mystified as to why.

All I've said is that women also act and that's also hard work. I didn't say it is the same job, only that it is no easier. Why does that bother you so?

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