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Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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Half-related question: the chip on the board looks like an STM32 microcontroller, wouldn't a 6-pin 8-bit PIC10 or similar µC be sufficient and cheaper for the purpose? And possibly use less power, a PIC10F322 in sleep mode with the watchdog timer enabled is around 0.5 µA, while a small STM32 is more in the 100 µA range in the best case.

I was wondering why an MCU with so many pins was used. Maybe it was picked for the total package height?

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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You can disable it on iPhone by: Go to: Settings → your name → Find My → Find My iPhone Toggle “Find My network” → OFF It should be noted that this will also disable your ability to find your own airtags.

Turning this off doesn't necessarily stop your phone from participating in the "Find My" network, it just prevents your items from being seen. Your phone will continue to relay BLE/UWB traffic for others, and run down your battery more quickly. Turning off Bluetooth seems to disable the traffic, but then you can no longer access your local Bluetooth devices.

>Turning this off doesn't necessarily stop your phone from participating in the "Find My" network, it just prevents your items from being seen. Your phone will continue to relay BLE/UWB traffic for others, [...]

Source?

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can disable it on iPhone by: Go to: Settings → your name → Find My → Find My iPhone Toggle “Find My network” → OFF It should be noted that this will also disable your ability to find your own airtags.

Turning this off doesn't necessarily stop your phone from participating in the "Find My" network, it just prevents your items from being seen. Your phone will continue to relay BLE/UWB traffic for others, and run down your battery more quickly. Turning off Bluetooth seems to disable the traffic, but then you can no longer access your local Bluetooth devices.

This is wild, but it seems correct, none of the documentation I can find mentions opting out as a sensor that will pass data to Apple. On the other hand, on my Mac no apps are granted access to Location Services, which includes Find My. I don't have an iOS device but it seems like maybe you'd have similarly granular control?

If they are forcing you to transmit data, then it might make even more sense that Apple would steer clear of usage that could create liability for their users.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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post #82

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yeah, but they do nothing to stop a locksmith in a fugue state from rekeying all the bolts to match the neighboring property and vice-versa, and then the realtor can walk right in, and you're locked out! so it's better to just leave the door open.

You’re proving the other persons point - the reason why the a thief doesn’t trivially pick locks isn’t because of the lock, it’s because it’s illegal and there’s a consequence.

consequences for doing something illegal never stopped me from picking a lock, actually. they've only stopped me from stealing

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

#106
post #75

Tile already has this feature. You need to pass verification to use it, but it stays undetectable. However, if you got caught stalking somebody you have to pay $1M fine.

It’s arguably pointless. > despite the absence of the device on Tile’s app, it can still be tracked and located through other means available on the device. > Tile Tracker with Anti-Theft mode has a static Mac-Address, which may make it even more trackable https://techryptic.github.io/2023/03/11/Tile-Anti-Theft-Mode...

Also, tile has a really useless network. I marked mine lost and carried it through a busy city for a month until it got picked up :P

It's probably because the only people using the app are those that bought one and they're not very common here in Europe. With Apple's, Samsung's and Google's network most phones report them. Not just those of the people who own a tag.

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