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Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by ruune »

dxyms wrote: post #97
latexr wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One guy pays the AI to dig a hole, the other guy pays the AI to fill in the hole. Back and forth they go, raising the BNP but otherwise not accomplishing anything. Not accomplishing anything would be better than what is actually happening. Like with the hole example, once you fill it back up there’s a good chance you can still tell a hole was dug in that place. What does “BNP” stand for in this context?

Maybe GDP in german or dutch?

It's BIP, Bruttoinlandsprodukt, in german

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by generalizations »

keiferski wrote: post #71
px43 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this an advancement in communication though? People can put out a message in whatever language or style they prefer, the machine translators translate it into an overly verbose AI vomit, and readers condense it back down into the exact kind of personalized language they're wanting to consume.

Depends on your theory of communication, I guess. If it’s to get the most tailored message possible, then yeah it is an advancement. But if it’s about communicating authentic feelings/thoughts between two people, then it’s a big step backwards. This might not be super relevant for random website content, but if for example people start using generative AI to communicate with each other, I think it will feel very alie…

It's exactly the same as using a complex networking protocol to transmit a very simple text string across the internet. There's reasons why it's efficient, and ignoring them is like asking why we can't just netcat from local ip to local ip. Ceremony is, unfortunately, necessary, as is preserving formalities and egos.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by sensanaty »

wussboy wrote: post #52
tempodox wrote: post #48

Say what you will, this “AI” hype has top-notch entertainment value. I mean, getting people sold on the idea that they need “AI” to lessen the impact of “AI” on their lives is a level of absurdity that other marketing scams can only look at with envy. Interesting times.

When I expressed concern that AI generated responses might make inaccurate claims about our products, I was told by the cloud rep to just put the answer through AI to make sure it was compliant…

Lol we're getting the same, except we do customer support software. An actual quote I've heard multiple times from PMs and even our CTO:

"If the AI returns an inconclusive response, we should send that back to the AI and tell it to think about it!"

And other variations of that. It feels like I'm surrounded by lunatics who have been brainwashed into squeezing AI into every nook and crany, and using it for literally everything and anything even if it doesn't make an iota of sense. That toothbrush that came with "AI Capabilities" springs to mind.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by msarrel »

I've tried a bunch of different sites and when this tool works it's fantastic, when it doesn't it is misleading. For example, the results from looking at a specific digital marketing agency were generic concise info about digital marketing in general. In this case, yes it has distilled a lot of information into concise information, but focused on the wrong concepts.

A more straightforward application like cleaning recipes, and this thing is really helpful.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by wsintra2022 »

latexr wrote: post #96
keiferski wrote: post #60

I bookmarked this comment a few months ago because I thought it was hilarious and increasingly accurate: It's approaching a very strange situation where people make overly wordy and bloated AI generated content and other people try to use AI to compress it back into useful pellets vaguely corresponding to the actual prompts used to generate the initial content. Which were the only bits anybody cared about in the firs…

> One guy pays the AI to dig a hole, the other guy pays the AI to fill in the hole. Back and forth they go, raising the BNP but otherwise not accomplishing anything. Not accomplishing anything would be better than what is actually happening. Like with the hole example, once you fill it back up there’s a good chance you can still tell a hole was dug in that place. What does “BNP” stand for in this context?

Business needs profit

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by wsintra2022 »

Terretta wrote: post #53
sramam wrote: post #24

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Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? A pre-click quality signal is more interesting and fair I imagine. Though I don't know how one can build a solution that is not game-able.

> Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? When I was young and naive, I learned guitar so I could make tunes, not realizing I'd failed to search engine optimize narratives about my journey for ad placement to fund my spotify pay for play to get myself concert gigs to sell hats and t-shirts until I could land sponsors. I'm sad to think in my naïveté I might have e…

This hits hard man! Beautiful writing, beautiful sentiment. Resonates with me, I too was a naive person learning guitar so I could express my feelings and views in the form of song! Know what I mean, yeah yeah

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by wsintra2022 »

ryandrake wrote: post #65
j1elo wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be a good thing that it removes incentives for the creators to create. Read between the lines: for the majority of current low-content creators, who are driven by the incentives that exist today . That would leave us with another set of new creators that would emerge, those people who would be driven just by the desire of sharing a tiny piece of their lives or knowledge, purely for the fun of it, without nee…

> It would be a good thing that it removes incentives for the creators to create. Absolutely. The Internet has way too many "content creators" and not enough "artists, writers, and musicians." When I go online, I'm not looking to "discover and consume content." What a bland way to describe the output of creativity.

Feel free to connect. I am also looking for artist, writers and musicians. I’m building Kushty buck records as a digital record store. More hang out in the local record store than we trying to sell records!

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#110

Post by thesecretsquad »

Putting aside this silliness of using AI to declutter AI generated noise... Can anyone explain why someone would be inclined to use this app as opposed to asking an existing AI chatbot to summarize an article? What exactly does this app add beyond that?
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