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Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by sandworm101 »

et-al wrote: post #97
sandworm101 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trad lead is climbing. Basically everything else is some sort of simulation.

It's 2024 and some people are gonna gatekeep that if you're not shoving cams in some bigwall granite, it's not climbing?

Such differences are actually at the heart of climbing. Is taking a helicopter up to the top climbing? Of course not. So from day one it is not about getting to the top but about following invented rules governing how you get to the top. How about a bolted-on ladder? Or pre-placed protection (bolts)? Clean trad, leaving the rock as you found it, is generally seen as the highest form.

(Climbing rock without ropes may be more "pure" but is so dangerous that it should never be idolized.)

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by smandava »

colehud wrote: post #92

Saw tennis on your LinkedIn - is SABR a nod to the Sneak Attack By Roger?

Ha! That was unintended. "You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards." - someone somewhere (likely Steve Jobs)

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by jfengel »

party_possum wrote: post #36
logtempo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see the shape of the holds being a big problem. With some help from indoor companies and hold makers, figuring out which hold model is on the wall should be possible. As for the usefullness of the software, I'm sceptical too as it don't really solve a problem. But maybe I'm not seeing it and it could be good for beginners :) A good improvement would be adding a comparison between you and the model in term of…

The idea of incorporating actual hold data and "recognizing" specific holds is interesting, but I'm not sure it completely solves the problem. The "Boss" from Pusher is arguably the most famous climbing hold ever made. For a decade or more, every gym had one, but they were all unique. Lots of them had micro chips that became critical to usage of the hold. Some had decent texture and some were glassy smooth from years…

Huh. I recognize it but didn't know its name. (I don't know any of the names.) Route setting sounds fascinating.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by smandava »

silentsea90 wrote: post #20

Very cool!! I am unfortunately very far from an AI expert. Can you share how you built this? Did you have to train your own model, or is it an open source model that you finetuned for climbing?

It is a new type of biomechanics AI model. More details in our paper which is coming soon!

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by nl »

I have a side project in a related space. For mine I'm syncing climbing between different videos automatically. I find this pretty useful because it highlights difference.

Some examples:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvg3bJkp30a/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cpuv2zvptdW/

It's actually syncing in 3D so is fairly independent of camera angle (as the second video shows)

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by smandava »

nsagent wrote: post #90

Great job! A lot of folks from my CS PhD program are really into climbing (including me), but none of us has conducted research that explored climbing. Rather climbing is our respite from research. Anyway, I think this could work really well as an app. Good luck.

Thanks! Still unsure if we will commercially pursue this specific idea or not. This was moreso meant to be a public progress marker from our broader work pursuing virtual avatar simulations. If enough interest is there, we will think about it. But, for now, this (will be) a paper and some open sourced code.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by nl »

party_possum wrote: post #34

It would be really interesting to build an instance of this model trained on world cup footage for a few reasons. - Like all of these things, your training data matters and the internet is awash with videos of people climbing badly. A lot of people specifically post "I can't climb this, what am I doing wrong?" videos. World cup climbers are, by the nature of the competition, extremely talented and technically profici…

This was exactly my thought. See https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvg3bJkp30a/ on a super-hard slab problem at Innsbruck 2023 (Sorato Anraku couldn't do it, so you know it's hard...)

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by crabmusket »

smandava wrote: post #5

Note: Will attach more example outputs and make a detailed document about how the model was built and the research behind it. If this is interesting to you, feel free to sign up to the waitlist on www.climbing.ai (and make sure to sign up for our Discord!) I originally planned on open sourcing the model, data, weights, and code. Only a few people (me and a couple friends) have access to the hosted model on the web ap…

*temper expectations!

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by johnfn »

Temporary_31337 wrote: post #76

I feel like I’m the right audience for this - a not very good climber with unusual distribution of limbs. But I’m not interested - part of the fun in climbing is on sight climbs and solving problems yourself.

Man, where is the hacking spirit? OP posts a very cool, impressive hack and all everyone can talk about in the comments is how it actually isn't interesting to them.
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