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Re: Show HN: Swift Mail. Fastmail's modern mail standard delivered natively on macOS

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Post by linsomniac »

mk89 wrote: post #62
linsomniac wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That hits a little close to home. A couple months ago I built a tool to transfer my playlists from Spotify to YouTube Music, and I put it on github. Since then it's really taken off, I usually get a few stars a day, and I've put a bunch of work in both fixing issues that other people had and also just doing support for users having problems. The thing that is funding the development of it at this point is my slow-bur…

Well, I personally am happy that you found what motivates the development of your app :) However, some people still want to make that ugly thing called ... money ... :) When that's the case, you really need to do your best NOT to let your app sink on the App Store - when that happens, you can say goodbye to your income (be it passive or active), unless someone really gives it a try because there is no other solution,…

I'm agreeing with you that there is so much effort that goes into software beyond just the code. Just going from "something I can use" to "something everyone can use" has been a huge deal with my little Spotify-to-YTMusic app. I wrote it in an evening and transferred all my music. Since then I've probably put in 30 hours refining it, fixing it for other use cases, and supporting people trying to use it.

I am, thankfully, in a position where I can do that in my spare time.

Re: Show HN: Swift Mail. Fastmail's modern mail standard delivered natively on macOS

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Post by knr2345 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #22

Is there a way to unlock the custom JMAP server option? Currently it says coming soon - is the feature actually missing or is just disabled due to being experimental, and if so is there a secret keyboard shortcut/etc to enable it? Been meaning to play with JMAP but the lack of native clients thus far has been a problem.

No, it cannot be enabled within the client.

It was disabled pending user feedback to allow private external testing of the feature while the app itself was open to public testing via website link.

This was to ensure a high quality, two way support channel could be established when enabling the feature for external testing. (It also ensured Test Flight data & support channels would not become polluted with failed attempts to sign in with gmail or similar)

Re: Show HN: Swift Mail. Fastmail's modern mail standard delivered natively on macOS

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Post by latexr »

thrwwycbr wrote: post #94
mk89 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder why that is. Money. Apple gets 30% off your app purchase and/or in-app purchases, while it gets 30% from your subscription for the first year and 15% for the subsequent years. So, if you think your app is worth 10$, you lose 3$ and the ability to make more money and to support its development (if you do, they have to be in-app purchases, like extensions, etc. and again 30% is gone). On the other hand, if y…

Wanted to add that Apple's fee is pre-tax, and Apple doesn't pay taxes (duh). Additionally, the refund policy of Apple is so bad that they keep the 30% and the developer has to pay for refunds 100%, meaning it's a net loss and a lot of indie game devs got doxxed into insolvency because of this.

> Additionally, the refund policy of Apple is so bad that they keep the 30% and the developer has to pay for refunds 100%, meaning it's a net loss and a lot of indie game devs got doxxed into insolvency because of this.

That is not true.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23995750

Re: Show HN: Swift Mail. Fastmail's modern mail standard delivered natively on macOS

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Post by latexr »

mk89 wrote: post #96
thrwwycbr wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wanted to add that Apple's fee is pre-tax, and Apple doesn't pay taxes (duh). Additionally, the refund policy of Apple is so bad that they keep the 30% and the developer has to pay for refunds 100%, meaning it's a net loss and a lot of indie game devs got doxxed into insolvency because of this.

Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out. That's brutal.

It isn’t true.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23995750

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