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Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#101

Any plans to actually scrape the data instead of just the images? Having the actual data saved in a tabular format would really make this a killer product... You could probably do this by finding the elements within your selection and parsing the rendered HTML. Images are great but for doing anything more complex than just viewing charts scraping the data would be a huge plus

What’s your usecase? Can you define “more complex”?

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#102
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This seems cool at first glance... but will users understand that this tool basically hijacks your user session to refresh the screenshots? In other words, this tool can only update a google analytics chart if you give it access to your gmail? That's scary. It also circumvents 2fa, because sessions are leaked to Plus after you've used your TOTP code or Yubi key. How can any business be OK with this??

> How can any business be OK with this??

First step is probably "don't look too closely" (:

I agree though — I would not want this thing doing who-knows-what-unverifiable-fiddling with my data and credentials.

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#103
As I have mentioned on other posts. Things like this need to be native apps, and not just a chrome extension or a web app. We need to get away from webapps for everything, and go back to native apps. Heck why do we have package tools then?

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it all that much more a risk than taking a screenshot, putting it on cloud storage like OneDrive/GDrive, and sharing with a "anyone who has the link" permission? B/c I feel like that is super common and kind of impossible to stop with a permissions approach.

Yes? When you take a screenshot, its contents are known and fixed. When you regularly and automatically refresh a screenshot of a particular x/y coordinate part of a specific screen on a website, what happens when "positive customer interactions" gets moved, and "internal notes on this customer, not for sharing with them" gets put in that spot?

Perhaps they can make it so that the element's XPath / node id is stored and used for capture rather than X + Y coordinates. Still prone to failure I know, but ultimately more reliable.

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#105
I was looking for something like this but for the Windows platform (not browser). The built-in snipping tool is great but I wanted a quicker way to take images. I tried looking up if right-click drag on the Windows desktop could be used to take a snap of the area (via some mouse-action binding). All I could find was that the action was bound to Windows Explorer copy/move semantics.

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#106
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This seems like a spectacular way to break permissions restrictions and escape data to non-authorized entities. If it's successful, it's the sort of thing that will be brutally blocked by IT all over the place. Very slick, though.

(I'm an EM at Plus) Yeah, we think about the permissions/data escape a lot. I'm glad to see others are commenting with scrutiny too. We've put a lot of effort into our security model, since we know that we're handling very sensitive data. To give a bit of a peek in: All of the session data we store is encrypted with a key unique to each organization, managed through AWS KMS. We've also built a fully event driven arch…

An idea, that you’ve probably thought of, but is it possible to do this without allowing others to update the screenshots? Updating would require the user(s) who produced the document to be logged in to the service.

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#107
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I worked for a personalization vendor a few years ago and was on an engineering team that built a feature like this. It was ... a major headache, and I don't think anyone was ever completely comfortable with the security implications. So I wish the team good luck, and especially with issues like: * A/B testing. How can you ensure that what your clients are seeing is the same thing you are seeing? Maybe you've been as…

Tangentially related question, what are the most successful products built around browser extensions? I sometime have ideas that would require browser extensions, but it feels like the target market must be computer literate for any chance or success (no mobile support for example).

Possibly Pinterest. I am not sure if the browser extension was 100% necessary for Pinterest to succeed, but I remember it being part of the new user sign-up flow, at least at one point.

Re: Show HN: Plus – Self-updating screenshots

#110
The idea is really cool, but implementation seems hard to get right.

Apart from the security issues mentioned by others (related to storing user auth/session data), what happens if there's an update to the website/application where the screenshot is being taken from? Or if they add an announcement banner at the top, all content will be displaced.

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