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Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by mlboss »

mellosouls wrote: post #32
pleb_nz wrote: post #8

Half of the fun of using cli is using it with your own knowledge imo. Using GPT3 makes it feel like I may as well use some GUI tool. I understand gpt3 will/does save time and money but I actually like to code and to use my skills and knowledge to build and solve thingswith my own hands. Maybe I'm an outlier here, but using some tool to do it for me doesn't sound like fun.

I don't think you're an outlier, but you will become one if you don't adapt to the inevitable. Like it or not, gpt3 has signalled a massive change in toolset power and this is just the start. Times have changed, we move with them or we will be left behind.

This is coming very fast. Today I used chatgpt to generate some kubernetes yaml and python code that was not able to find using google.

Once it is integrated in copilot there is no going back. We software engineers will be churning code faster and our role will be more of a code reviewer. One developer can do the work of 5.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by tux »

pleb_nz wrote: post #8

Half of the fun of using cli is using it with your own knowledge imo. Using GPT3 makes it feel like I may as well use some GUI tool. I understand gpt3 will/does save time and money but I actually like to code and to use my skills and knowledge to build and solve thingswith my own hands. Maybe I'm an outlier here, but using some tool to do it for me doesn't sound like fun.

I for one agree with pleb_nz, its kind of like replacing CLI with GUI. Thank you, but no thanks! To me writing custom bash script or "kill -9 $(lsof -t /dev/nvidia0)" is much better than typing "do kill the process which is locking up my GPU". Plus what if you want ot pass additional arguments to kill or lsof? Once you master CLI you'll never go back, at least that true for me. I'm actually tyring to replace more software that I use with CLI not go back to GUI. I'm even considering making terminal based websites of my projects as an option. So everyone can access them with lynx and similar.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by ultrarunner »

pleb_nz wrote: post #8

Half of the fun of using cli is using it with your own knowledge imo. Using GPT3 makes it feel like I may as well use some GUI tool. I understand gpt3 will/does save time and money but I actually like to code and to use my skills and knowledge to build and solve thingswith my own hands. Maybe I'm an outlier here, but using some tool to do it for me doesn't sound like fun.

Just like driving a manual-transmission car, part of fun is in the doing. Further, though, part of the doing makes it practical: engagement while driving is a good thing.

How, if one has no experience with the command line, can convincing errors in GPT's responses be detected? If the details of the command line are automated away, and engagement diminishes, will we arrive at a point where people are more limited because the knowledge that made the command line powerful is gone? Sure, it might make it easier to eat a sandwich in rush hour traffic, but eventually will we find ourselves cringing while dragging the brakes down a mountain because we've lost the ability to simply downshift? How often have you seen someone hesitate to do something on a computer because they don't fully understand what's going on and 'don't want to break anything'?

I think this project is awesome, and could even expand my knowledge of the CLI, but have some reservations about applying it as a categorical imperative.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by tux »

jpalomaki wrote: post #47
pleb_nz wrote: post #8

Half of the fun of using cli is using it with your own knowledge imo. Using GPT3 makes it feel like I may as well use some GUI tool. I understand gpt3 will/does save time and money but I actually like to code and to use my skills and knowledge to build and solve thingswith my own hands. Maybe I'm an outlier here, but using some tool to do it for me doesn't sound like fun.

I also enjoy mastering some tools and solving problems with them, but sometimes it gets a bit overwhelming when you are working with so many languages, libraries, and platforms. Unfortunately, quite a portion of my search activity is hunting down the syntax for getting a certain thing done. It's not just blind copy-paste-trial-and-error activity. Quite often I just need some help in getting the syntax right or remind…

Actually by using something like GPT3 you are kind of doing copy-and-paste in a way, because you are given pre-defined set of commands without ability to modify its arguments. It looks to me like typing in terminal at random and hoping for the best results. This is especially bad for newbies, because they won't know how this commands work and what all this arguments mean. This is my two cents anyway.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by gnomewascool »

jjoonathan wrote: post #96
narrator wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Fire Upon The Deep" was great until it got to the part about the dog kingdom.

I stopped reading at the dog kingdom. A few chapters in, it felt like I had been baited with a veneer of scifi over a core of anthropomorphic medieval historical fiction. Do the dogs connect back to the AIs in a satisfying way? Should I give it a second chance? ChatGPT says As the story progresses, the puppies become involved in the larger conflict that is taking place in the galaxy, and they play a key role in helpi…

AFAIR "no". Humans interact with both the AIs and the "dogs", and both groups of humans end up in contact with each other, but unless I'm missing something, the "dogs" don't directly interact with the AIs in any significant way (or the two threads end up interfering with each other, but more in a "they distract some of the characters" in both cases).

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by macNchz »

sh4rks wrote: post #94
pixel_tracing wrote: post #93

It seems like the use case is for folks who might be noobs and in that regard I’d argue this tool is significantly dangerous. The user could accept a command that removes all their files unknowingly as an example. The commands in the article I saw are fairly long too. I understand we have a cool new shiny toy (GPT) and see it’s potential but it still needs work because chances are if you’re typing “do create a new re…

What would be cool is if you could get GPT to break the command up into its components and then explain what each component does and how it works.

Just goofing around with it, ChatGPT does pretty well at that, I'm really impressed with this: https://imgur.com/a/lVcWbAH

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by microtonal »

krackers wrote: post #12
pleb_nz wrote: post #8

Half of the fun of using cli is using it with your own knowledge imo. Using GPT3 makes it feel like I may as well use some GUI tool. I understand gpt3 will/does save time and money but I actually like to code and to use my skills and knowledge to build and solve thingswith my own hands. Maybe I'm an outlier here, but using some tool to do it for me doesn't sound like fun.

The killer app for LLMs will finally be able to write ffmpeg invocations

That and writing LaTeX or Tikz. These are the things you have to do every now and then, but don't do enough to commit them to long-term memory.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by akkartik »

jjoonathan wrote: post #96
narrator wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Fire Upon The Deep" was great until it got to the part about the dog kingdom.

I stopped reading at the dog kingdom. A few chapters in, it felt like I had been baited with a veneer of scifi over a core of anthropomorphic medieval historical fiction. Do the dogs connect back to the AIs in a satisfying way? Should I give it a second chance? ChatGPT says As the story progresses, the puppies become involved in the larger conflict that is taking place in the galaxy, and they play a key role in helpi…

I don't really think of any Vernor Vinge as hard scifi that's got a core "theme" that everything has to connect to. It's rather space opera with fairly deep world building. Every chapter has certain "episodic" aspects, often exploring a single theme, and some chapters advance the broader story arc more than others. So no, the Tines don't connect to the AIs. Instead the Tines contribute to the warp and weft of the story just like the AIs. The angle in their subplot that sticks with me a decade later is the exploration of sense of self when split up between multiple bodies. And what happens to the sense of self when the number of bodies grows or shrinks.

To be fair, "A Deepness in the Sky" has a richer world than Fire. When I reread Fire a few years later I did tend to skim the Tines as well. Whereas every one of the half dozen themes in Deepness has remained compelling after multiple readings.

Re: Show HN: GPT-3 Powered Shell

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Post by khalidx »

The Fig CLI has this feature! And lets you confirm commands before they run. They are also a pretty cool company, and the tool does much more (like letting you share secrets with your team, sync bash profiles and share scripts, etc). https://fig.io/ and https://fig.io/user-manual/ai. Congrats on making this tool too OP. Exciting stuff is happening in this space!
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