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This is a service I'm interested in, but by fuck is their website annoying. Instead of having stupid moving rectangles of services you can run on Umbrel, why not just display each service as a paragraph of text, with an icon next to it? No animations, and no rectangles moving across the screen. These people have put a good deal of effort into their landing screen, unfortunately this effort has made it worse than it w…
I'm looking forward to some backup service - ideally one I can also self host offsite - but don't mind a sensible paid service. I assume the Blockchain itself doesn't need to be backed up but my apps data, yes.
I'd love to have another umbrel server being used as backup in case the primary one "goes down"
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How do you suppose that would happen? You need some kind of hardware to self-host.
I didn't say cheap, though that would help of course. But people aren't opposed to buying hardware if the UX is worth it (see: Apple). And I do think it could be worth it if installing services was as easy as installing apps on your phone. No signup process, and data can be shared between services. I'm imagining something like Synology NAS with it's apps [1], but with more user submitted services, and better connecti…
For something like a home server to take off it really needs to have that killer app. For most that would probably be something like Plex/Jellyfin, but your average user is just going to sign up for streaming services instead. And if a media server is all you want, Synology can take care of that pretty well. I recently moved my Plex server from a Mac mini (which I used in some form since Plex was first launched) over to a Synology NAS using Docker. Of course that’s not very user friendly, but assuming the native Plex app is better for the average Joe.
With so many cloud providers that make it easy to get to your data anywhere in the world via your laptop or phone, it’s hard to argue in favor of moving to home servers for much of anything. Sure, you can access it remotely if you set it up, but it’s going to be more hit and miss, and when things don’t work you’re just stuck hoping you can fix it.
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Thanks for the taking the time to try Umbrel out, great observations! 1. Re crypto apps, I figured some additional context may help. Before our today's release, Umbrel was a self-hosting OS primarily geared towards Bitcoin node users. Today, we migrated the Bitcoin node to the Umbrel App Store and took the last step in our transition to becoming an app-agnostic general purpose OS. So expect to see a lot more non-Bitc…
Re 3: What you really need is Caddy [0] with this dynamic DNS module: https://github.com/mholt/caddy-dynamicdns Caddy has state-of-the-art certificate automation and TLS support, and with that module, it automatically updates DNS records if users have non-static IPs. It'll also serve certs for localhost domains (use *.localhost IMO). [0]: https://caddyserver.com (I'm the author, for disclosure)
Thanks for an awesome product Matt!!
Looks great on first look, but on closer inspection saw that it's written in pure JavaScript (0% TypeScript) + Bash. Honestly makes me a bit worried about security. Now, I'm not so thrilled about it anymore...
Judging the security of an application based on its use of typescript is like when people judge the intelligence of a person depending on if they have an English or an American accent.
In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism: 1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the pla…
It's accessible by tor because it's primarily a bitcoin/lightning node. If you're not interested in that core value prop, umbrel isn't for you.
When I looked into it, a Bitcoin node took over 300GB of space on your computer. I'd imagine that is over 600 GB now. Is anyone running full nodes on a raspberry pi?
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> The license forbids me to hire another vendor to service the product. That is the definition of vendor lock-in. Where in the license does it forbid such a thing? Commercial use != an individual paying for third party support/service/development.
There is a License FAQ [0], in which it says: > Selling Umbrel, including selling cloud-hosted instances with Umbrel or its derivates, home server hardware with Umbrel or its derivates, support services for Umbrel or its derivates, etc is not permitted under our license. [0]: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/wiki/License-FAQ
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It's accessible by tor because it's primarily a bitcoin/lightning node. If you're not interested in that core value prop, umbrel isn't for you.
I am amazed to see people are interested in running Bitcoin nodes. As far as I know, none of the people I have talked to about Bitcoin or shit coins have any interest in running a full node. This is the thing that convinced me that cryptocurrency is a fad or worse a place people see to make a quick buck. When I looked into it, a Bitcoin node took over 300GB of space on your computer. I'd imagine that is over 600 GB n…
I think the overlap of folks who want to self host and folks who don't already use a preferred Linux distro or Windows is quite small.
If self hosting were as easy and stable as signing up for a cloud service, I think people would switch
Self hosting in 2022 is not exactly a walk in the park. Besides the obvious security risks of data loss/theft through exploits, you also have a challenge making anything as redundant as a cloud service.
Most major cloud services offer multi geographical redundancy, meaning if one data center completely vanishes (like the OVH fire), your data is safe in another data center, and hastily restoring redundancy to yet another data center.
You get versioning as well, i.e. OneDrive offers unlimited versions for 30 days, allowing you to roll back your entire account to a date 30 days in the past in case of malware attacks.
Add to that redundant hardware, power, internet, spare parts, physical access control, fire prevention and more.
On the other side of the fence, we have that old gaming PC that has been repurposed as a "home server", running Unraid, or slightly better TrueNAS in Raid-Z1, and not a backup in sight because "raid". Furthermore it probably hasn't been patched in months unless it defaults to auto updating.
I'm well aware that there are people that are serious about self hosting (i used to be one), but the above repurposed gaming PC is what you'll get in A LOT of the cases.
And to top it all off, with electricity prices in Europe as they are right now, the cloud is cheaper than running your own hardware, except of course for multi TB storage. A 4 bay Synology consuming 45W costs about €18/month in electricity alone, and a 60W server costs €23.5/month.