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Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a great comparison. The only people that need to read (and know how to read) code are coders. A non-coder can't criticize code. This is not the same for UX (or restaurants, films or cars from my other example) as these are things that everyone interacts with and understands to some extent despite not doing so in a professional capacity.

That is the problem though. As a consumer you’ll never get to know the intricacies of how things are made and why. The biggest problem at least here on HN is that hardly anyone knows how to articulate their (however valid) critiques, and therefore fallback to cliches and easy-to-quote “laws” that are quite irrelevant among design practitioners.

You don't need to know how something was built in order to critique the experience of using it.

A non designer is not going to be good at identifying solutions to problems because that does require knowledge about how the sausage is made, but they should certainly be listened to when identifying problems. Not doing so would be madness.

(Not to mention a lot of the commenters on here that you're decrying as "non designers" probably do have experience with design, considering the userbase of HN)

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Hi all, I made this project to help myself stay up to date with automotive industry because I love cars and anything related to them. It gathers the latest automotive news from more than 20 auto portals. Allows users to submit articles, comment, and upvote. I got quite literally inspired by HN and was mindblown why such a thing does not exist for automotive industry. Also users can subscribe to a newsletter that deli…

All the top stories seem very consumer oriented, not for professionals in the industry. From a cursory glance it seems more like a "car enthusiast" news site rather than a place for industry discussion.

I've spent much of my career in the auto industry (Tier 1 supplier), and I couldn't agree more. I'm even a "car guy," but I could care less about exotic cars, which most of what appears on autonews.io.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a great comparison. The only people that need to read (and know how to read) code are coders. A non-coder can't criticize code. This is not the same for UX (or restaurants, films or cars from my other example) as these are things that everyone interacts with and understands to some extent despite not doing so in a professional capacity.

That is the problem though. As a consumer you’ll never get to know the intricacies of how things are made and why. The biggest problem at least here on HN is that hardly anyone knows how to articulate their (however valid) critiques, and therefore fallback to cliches and easy-to-quote “laws” that are quite irrelevant among design practitioners.

The whole point of UI/UX is to provide a good experience for users. Users know when they are having a good experience and part of the role of a UI/UX practitioner is to collect and synthesise this feedback.

A practitioner who ignores feedback and says "who's the UX professional here?" is not a very good one.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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You might want to consider that autonews.com is the url of Automotive News, a widely-read trade publication from Crain Communications. (I get access to it as I work for a Tier-1 automotive supplier). IANAL, but you probably will get in hot water if you keep using autonews.io, even non-commercially. (trademark infringement, cyber-squatting, and the like) (edit:sp)

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Not a big fan of the use of space compared to hn. On hn on mobile I can clearly see the headlines for 13 stories, on the automotive one, I get 6, meaning i have to scroll a whole page just to see as many stories as I can at a glance on hn. With one quick scroll, i can see an entire hn page, to get to the bottom of autonews I had to scroll 5 times and scroll past an annoying subscribe bar placed in the middle. I don't…

Agreed - don't get fancy - you're on a good idea with the auto focus - just clone the HN look and feel, choose a different color palette. I wonder if part of the appeal of HN is it has no images?

yes.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

#109

Gratuitous images by each story, slow enough to load that it benefits from a cutesy loading spinner, cookies for tailored marketing, email signup box after the 10th story, fat banner that uses the hamburger menu icon but doesn’t trust it to be communicative enough so also has “Menu” in text on the button... That’s...not a Hacker News for X.

I think you make very good points but wonder if you could have softened the delivery a bit.

Re: Show HN: I made a Hacker News for the automotive industry

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Gratuitous images by each story, slow enough to load that it benefits from a cutesy loading spinner, cookies for tailored marketing, email signup box after the 10th story, fat banner that uses the hamburger menu icon but doesn’t trust it to be communicative enough so also has “Menu” in text on the button... That’s...not a Hacker News for X.

I agree with your larger point but in a different way — Hacker News is not defined by UI, but community. I’m sure that there is a Hacker News for auto out there already, I’d guess it’s a myBB forum.
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