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>> Privacy First Products - A curated list where you can discuss privacy first products Cool! will I be expected to sign-up with my FB/Google/Whatever social media account to join?

No, you will need a email address to log in.

Good question. On something that's minimal impact to lose, I like the https://spike.news model of saving state: you're given a token (a string of a few words) to log back in with later. No email, no risk, everyone's happy.

Please don't use email if it's not necessary.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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A law office can be a start-up. "I want to start up a law office." Words (in English) require context to have much meaning. Startup could certainly mean "investor fueled boom or bust hypergrowth ambition rocket" at a YC demo day. Or it can simply mean a company one started. I'd argue that a trait shared by many startups is talking about themselves in the best light possible to get people focused on their future poten…

'Startup' is a noun. It's not "I want to start up something". In reality, nobody is calling their new law firm a startup. Nobody is referring to said law firms as startups. Now - if it's a specialized kind of firm that sells services online, like a 'law marketplace' or something, maybe they will call it a startup. Yes - the term startup is quite varied ... However, the vast majority of business generally don't apply,…

In general, a startup is a business that doesn't yet have a stable customer base or business model. What you're describing is a "tech startup", and the modifier often gets dropped in the tech press, for obvious reasons. The investment press also drops the modifier, because few other startups are interesting to them.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Hi guys, I've finished my run in ~13 hours. I've made an MVP Starter Kit https://21daysmvp.com/ . That was a fun ride, but there's a lot of work ahead to make it a full-scale project. Time to go and get some sleep finally.

I suppose your 1000 free impressions ran out on thum.io

Fixed, thanks for the feedback.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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I've never seen a definition of a startup that I like. Here's my personal sniff test... To me, a business is an entity with paying customers. To me, a startup is an entity that wants paying customers before it has them, or has them now but once did not (and it remains a startup until people stop calling it that).

I recently wrote about this discussion here: https://www.indiehackers.com/@jessems/its-not-a-startup-the-... The term startup is ambiguous and the fact that Steve Blank, Eris Reiss and Paul Graham have their own definitions says something. It's hard to not call Pieter Levels' Nomadlist a startup.

I dont see how nomadlist is a startup. I understand your want to redefine things, I myself am working on a small side-project indiestyle, but its not a startup.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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I've never seen a definition of a startup that I like. Here's my personal sniff test... To me, a business is an entity with paying customers. To me, a startup is an entity that wants paying customers before it has them, or has them now but once did not (and it remains a startup until people stop calling it that).

I'm not sure I agree at all. 99% of business in this situation, you would never call a startup. New law firm. New dental office. Your uncle started doing roofing, asks your little brother to work his summer off from Uni with him on roofing. A new golf course installed in a coastal area. A 50 new homes going up in the suburbs. The empty spot on the corner is now a little corner store - beer, wine, chips. New taco rest…

I'll add that the differentiating factor between a startup and a small business (or freelancer, contractor, etc.) is the ability to scale and do so quickly without increasing the company overhead, initially at least.

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I've never seen a definition of a startup that I like. Here's my personal sniff test... To me, a business is an entity with paying customers. To me, a startup is an entity that wants paying customers before it has them, or has them now but once did not (and it remains a startup until people stop calling it that).

I'm not sure I agree at all. 99% of business in this situation, you would never call a startup. New law firm. New dental office. Your uncle started doing roofing, asks your little brother to work his summer off from Uni with him on roofing. A new golf course installed in a coastal area. A 50 new homes going up in the suburbs. The empty spot on the corner is now a little corner store - beer, wine, chips. New taco rest…

> , wherein there is generally a larger market opportunity, and possibly higher growth ... this is startup.

Oh, so a startup is a business that continues to fail and hasn't screwed over it's users yet. Gotcha.

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"Hey, I worked on a project for a few hours, give me funding" Please folks - we need new terminology. This initiative is all fine and good, but maybe we need new words, because these are not startups. This seems more to fit the term 'Hackathon' than anything. 'Microstartup'? 'Microproject' ? 'Microfab' ? 'Micro-op' ? Ok maybe not so great ... Something that communicates that it is authentic and innovative, but at the…

Or just call them startups if that's what they are. If someone is starting a business selling something then it's a startup, no matter how small initially.

What is the startup doing heartbeat generated art selling?

I agree 100% with OP, the term startup has been totally devalued by this trend towards ‘everything is a startup’, when a lot of things (such as some of these projects) would be better described, and I think receive better recognition, if they were considered cool projects or units of work.

Some of them may morph into businesses but it is disingenuous to try and call everything a startup.

I see it as part of a deeper trend where fake-it till you make it/style over substance world where ‘everyone is an entrepreneur’.

I get that some degree of faking it is necessary, maybe the product doesn’t exist, maybe elements of it are done by hand rather than automated, and clearly some degree of this is necessary. But too much of it as an ethos devalues the entire ‘innovation culture’

My 2 c

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Heya! I’m Armin, part of the team behind the 24 Hour Startup Challenge! Over this weekend, there are over 300 founders building products live on Twitch in 24 hours. As I post this, there are almost 90 people live streaming their work from all over the world! You can watch them on 24hrstartup.com. The idea behind this live-streamed hackathon event comes from Pat Walls. He challenged himself to do a 24-hour startup twi…

I browsed the streams. Fun projects! Lots of opinions expressed here and I would tend to agree that none of these folks seem to be doing anything with customers. I'd love to see a challenge where the goal was to have 5 customers in 24 hours. With that said this seems more like a distributed hack-a-thon and a good one. I think that's an idea worth repeating. Venues and wifi and food and security and all the other thin…

> I'd love to see a challenge where the goal was to have 5 customers in 24 hours.

I tried this (https://www.twitch.tv/louisswiss) last week and failed. The weekend just isn't good for b2b sales. With no extra work I did reach 4 sales ($600) within a week though.

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That's not what I'm advocating. Just arguing against the parent who said some equivalent of "while others are building products, you wannabe entrepreneurs are all talks here on HN".

Realize that, I was making a sarcastic joke. :)

Haha. Never forget to add /s at the end, sarcasm is hard to convey over text and with an audience that doesn't know you well :-)
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