Why Github? Copying from one commercial provider to another doesn't solve the fundamental problem. Using git helps, but most of those old repos will never get cloned. In 10 years time, Github may be the tired old service that gets acquired by a hedge fund that decides to monetize their repos. Such things are part of the corporate lifecycle.
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#12I'd also echo the concerns of others about GitHub.
Proper archivists should do for SourceForge what they did for other projects. Archive Team, maybe? Looks like they have a wiki page: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=SourceForge
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#13That's great. I started doing that myself (my own git server, not github) for some projects I care about. This effort seems include a very narrow list, though. For CVS, though, I suspect cvs-fast-export [1] will do a better job than git-cvsimport. 1 http://www.catb.org/esr/cvs-fast-export/
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#14Why Github? Copying from one commercial provider to another doesn't solve the fundamental problem. Using git helps, but most of those old repos will never get cloned. In 10 years time, Github may be the tired old service that gets acquired by a hedge fund that decides to monetize their repos. Such things are part of the corporate lifecycle.
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#15Why Github? Copying from one commercial provider to another doesn't solve the fundamental problem. Using git helps, but most of those old repos will never get cloned. In 10 years time, Github may be the tired old service that gets acquired by a hedge fund that decides to monetize their repos. Such things are part of the corporate lifecycle.
Do you have any other suggestions? Hosting these repos on donated/personal machines is (IMO) significantly less likely to stand the test of time. At least with a commercial entity there is a bit more "trust" involved that they won't disappear out of the blue one day. And if the time comes that Github starts to collapse, the process can be repeated. Just because something isn't permanent doesn't mean it's pointless.
Archive.org ?
And weird that nobody suggested the Bitcoin block chain. I don't think binaries are a good fit but source code doesn't require a lot of space. With the current and future block size it will take sometime to make it happen.
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#16Why aren't you mirroring the binaries? These are vital for people in the future who do not have the time to set up a build environment for software from a decade ago. I'd also echo the concerns of others about GitHub. Proper archivists should do for SourceForge what they did for other projects. Archive Team, maybe? Looks like they have a wiki page: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=SourceForge
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#17Why aren't you mirroring the binaries? These are vital for people in the future who do not have the time to set up a build environment for software from a decade ago. I'd also echo the concerns of others about GitHub. Proper archivists should do for SourceForge what they did for other projects. Archive Team, maybe? Looks like they have a wiki page: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=SourceForge
Right now Xfire's videos, several URL shortners' links, and Toshiba Support material are being archived. If you have spare cycles and bandwidth, and want to contribute, running an instance of the "ArchiveTeam Warrior" is pretty easy through docker or a VM. http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Warrior
Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I confess my ignorance regarding archive.org's various collections. There seem to be a lot of them, which one are you referring to?
They're not a part of archive.org (just a totally separate group with similar interests, lead by Jason Scott). The specific project page is here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=SourceForge The best place to pop in is probably on IRC. For the Sourceforge project it's #coldstorage on EFnet, http://chat.efnet.org:9090/?nick=&channels=%23coldstorage&Lo... for the web client. Though note, the ArchiveTeam project s…
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#19Re: Show HN: Effort to clone unmaintained SourceForge projects to GitHub
#20Nice! But in my opinion better help archiveteam with their efforts!