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Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by simi_ » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 7:36 PM UTC

shrig94 wrote: post #10

nateabele wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting a new Open Source Project [ ] 1. Choose a nominally unique name within language/package space [ ] 2. Okay, at least choose a unique name within the comparatively small sub-community you're targeting, so as not to invite unnecessary confusion for literally everyone involved [x] 3. Post on Hacker News

I'd agree that this namespace conflict is by no means ideal. It's hard for someone to scope out the world of similarly-named packages in npm, determine which ones are actually used, and then name their package--even after investing in this process, it can be easy for one to miss something similar. That's probably why this happens so often. People are being overly critical of atjoslin, given that he admitted in his ed…

Sorry, but this is hardly rocket science: https://www.google.com/search?q=ng+classy

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by atjoslin » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 7:37 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #9

atjoslin wrote: post #5

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Careful with those assumptions, friend.

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here. But again, there was no passive aggressiveness in my previous comment. I meant what I said, and nothing more: He's assuming things about someone he doesn't know. That's something to be careful with.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by thekaleb » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 7:38 PM UTC

illicium wrote: post #6

Decorators are an ES7 proposal -- they don't exist in ES6.

They haven't even standardized if they are to behave like python decorators or c# annotations.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by atjoslin » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 7:45 PM UTC

simi_ wrote: post #11

shrig94 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd agree that this namespace conflict is by no means ideal. It's hard for someone to scope out the world of similarly-named packages in npm, determine which ones are actually used, and then name their package--even after investing in this process, it can be easy for one to miss something similar. That's probably why this happens so often. People are being overly critical of atjoslin, given that he admitted in his ed…

Sorry, but this is hardly rocket science: https://www.google.com/search?q=ng+classy

I didn't check the web-at-large, that's why. I just thought 'classy! It's classes.' Then I checked npm. Then I pushed it.

Probably was a bad idea.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by andrewmcwatters » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:05 PM UTC

What in the world is that @ symbol doing? I've never seen that in ES6. It makes this thing look horrid and nonidiomatic, unless I'm just ignorant, which I could be, and both could be true.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by nateabele » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:16 PM UTC

shrig94 wrote: post #10

nateabele wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting a new Open Source Project [ ] 1. Choose a nominally unique name within language/package space [ ] 2. Okay, at least choose a unique name within the comparatively small sub-community you're targeting, so as not to invite unnecessary confusion for literally everyone involved [x] 3. Post on Hacker News

I'd agree that this namespace conflict is by no means ideal. It's hard for someone to scope out the world of similarly-named packages in npm, determine which ones are actually used, and then name their package--even after investing in this process, it can be easy for one to miss something similar. That's probably why this happens so often. People are being overly critical of atjoslin, given that he admitted in his ed…

I know the internet is a place where tone doesn't really come across, but I'm just poking a little fun, not trying to be critical, since I'm not really invested one way or the other. In fact, if anything, it behooves me as an active participant in the Angular community not to pick fights & make enemies (hi, atjoslin!). :-)

> That's probably why this happens so often.

So often?

> People are being overly critical of atjoslin, given that he admitted in his edit that his intentions were not foul.

Well, maybe not-foul intentions are a high enough bar, but I think good intentions might look something like taking the extra half-hour (as an author/maintainer of numerous OS projects, I know it doesn't take that long) to find a slightly less-similar name. As this is a new project, I can't imagine the impact on your (checks GitHub, sees 31 stars & 4 watchers) community will be all that substantial.

Again, I have no particular investment here (okay, okay, technically I have 2 HN comments-worth of investment, so that adds up to... wait, yup, basically nothing). This is just a little friendly advice, and worth what you paid for it.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by nateabele » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:18 PM UTC

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #15

What in the world is that @ symbol doing? I've never seen that in ES6. It makes this thing look horrid and nonidiomatic, unless I'm just ignorant, which I could be, and both could be true.

That is a TypeScript decorator[0]. It's not a Real JavaScript Thing™ in the TC-39 sense, but you can use it if you're willing to put up with more build tools.

[0] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/typescript/archive/2015/04/30/announ...

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by atjoslin » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:20 PM UTC

nateabele wrote: post #17

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #15

What in the world is that @ symbol doing? I've never seen that in ES6. It makes this thing look horrid and nonidiomatic, unless I'm just ignorant, which I could be, and both could be true.

That is a TypeScript decorator [0]. It's not a Real JavaScript Thing ™ in the TC-39 sense, but you can use it if you're willing to put up with more build tools. [0] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/typescript/archive/2015/04/30/announ...

That's also a Javascript decorator. You can use it with Babel today if you pass in `{stage: 0}`.

https://github.com/wycats/javascript-decorators

http://babeljs.io/docs/usage/experimental/

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by nateabele » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:23 PM UTC

atjoslin wrote: post #18

nateabele wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a TypeScript decorator [0]. It's not a Real JavaScript Thing ™ in the TC-39 sense, but you can use it if you're willing to put up with more build tools. [0] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/typescript/archive/2015/04/30/announ...

That's also a Javascript decorator. You can use it with Babel today if you pass in `{stage: 0}`. https://github.com/wycats/javascript-decorators http://babeljs.io/docs/usage/experimental/

Huh, wycats finally caved on the syntax, eh? Good to know.

Re: Show HN: Ng-classy – Use Angular 1 and ES6 with ease

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Post by andrewmcwatters » Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 8:29 PM UTC

nateabele wrote: post #17

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #15

What in the world is that @ symbol doing? I've never seen that in ES6. It makes this thing look horrid and nonidiomatic, unless I'm just ignorant, which I could be, and both could be true.

That is a TypeScript decorator [0]. It's not a Real JavaScript Thing ™ in the TC-39 sense, but you can use it if you're willing to put up with more build tools. [0] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/typescript/archive/2015/04/30/announ...

Thanks for educating me!